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YEh, I understand. I guess it is a taste issue. I really loathe the blue and gold and Cubbing culture in general. It is my own personal Idaho of prejudice. I was a cub and in webelos. I have issues with the transition from cubbing to scouts- and I am still working it out on my end. I have begun to transition my consoldiated unit into a bifurcated Cub Pack and Boy Scout Troop. But I am still the overall leader of both, and have not yet gone with the den-mother and Cub Scouting rank advancement thing. But I do have a female ASM now!(And two other male ASMs). My scouts get

Old Grey Eagle- Good thoughts. Perhaps after considering what you just expressed I'll modify what I wrote and say that perhaps it should have been voted on by the scouts-- But the design competiton for the logo as well as the uniform could be submitted by any body (that way the bset idea may come from an adult and or non-scouting quarter). THe images and concepts could be posted on a website and it could be voted on by active scouts. I offer my congratulations ot the winner. I'm sure he can handle a critique of his work if he is an eagle scout. (If he plans on going to art sch

It is a very safe logo design- very corporate slick- very dull. It neither offends nor inspires. An old heavily pitted scout axe next to a GPS devise or some other juxtaposition might have been more interesting. A WWI scout helping a fallen soldier next to a current scout tape recording an aging vet would have gone to a deeper level of what scouting has been and continues to be.. And if you do go with an eagle- make it one bad ass eagle- not an abstract albino one that looks like it just smashed itself into a 2010 etched plate glass window. It's slanted to "all modern

Walmart sells a really smart looking line of work clothes. Very uniform looking - big functional pockets- heavy cotton blend, nice grey, blue, and buff colors. SOme are pretty inexpensive. I bought 25 green basball caps for $3 each two monthes ago (I just drew on our logo with a Sharpie). Scouting is so rear in my neck of the woods- it would be pretty strange if someone asked you if you were BSA or a BP scout even if you were not plainly marked as such by wearing the necker and hat and a scout-like uniform. Around here at least- no one knows about any other kind of scouting than a BSA. (A

I personally don't like it when scouts start looking too civilian. I will discontinue using the terms class A and B and go with the official uniform and activity uniform (But with the caveat that these terms are ridiculous because obviously the scouters on this forum have expressed less than a consensus on the notion that the official uniform should be the out door activity uniform. It makes my head spin.) I think the official uniform is very attractive. We use it for nearly %100 percent of our activities. It is perfect for our after school activities and parades and field trips to museu

Stosh, What you describe is how we currently do it as well. Perhaps I am too sensitive to the grumblings of my scout parents- who complain when the nice and expeinsive uniform gets all beat up on camp outs. I have seen a scout with a brand new uniform not five minutes into a five mile hike take a spill and rip the crap out of his pants. His mom was fit to be tied. (THough she was already fit to be tied in general). I just can imagine a better uniform for rugged outdoor behavior than the current uniform- which seems a little light weight and dressy. Pappy

AnneinMpls, Third post on "ALl things Pappy" are two examples of "Wide Games" we have conducted. http://www.scouter.com/Forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=181186&p=1 We put a little time into making up the injured to look pretty graphically real. THis adds a lot of drama. Acting out an injury goes along way to making the event more fun and engaging for the boys. Think about a downed power line scenario. THey run across bodies in wetr grass. Should they approach? Are they penalized if they do. YEs- they have been electrocuted. Also- if you can swing it, a boy in a deep

Guten Tag! Slouchhat, If we could get scouts to wear their uniforms to school we would proclaim it miracle day. (Most Cub and Boy Scouts around these parts don't wear their uniforms to meetings as it is). I could get my Cubs to wear their uniform everyday of the weak- but they are a pretty gung ho lot- and their uniform is a lot cooler than the school uniform. But the older boys- wear their scout uniform to the Junior High or High School? That is not a far cry from martyrdom. But maybe it is a regional thing. Probably Bob Whites boys have enough pride in their uniform because he

This seems to be a subject that comes up a lot. Why must a scout unit only be uniformed during indoor meetings and such, but when they actually do scouting adventures they so often all go individualistic with the clothes. I actually came close to driving over to the local Carhardt factory here in my home town and asking them about designing a Boy Scout utility outfit. I personally like airman and aviator flight suits. They have lots of zippers and places for patches- they have something old and military about them- and new and space-age as well. Military BDUs are of course desig

"Yeh Bob! And that goes double for me!" Just kidding Bob. But GOld Winger, if you really are sincere about your expressed beliefs on this and other threads about offering burnt sacrifice, than power to you. I thought, as Bob does, that you are poking fun at other people's religion. Bob was in the process of answering someone's question, and your post didn't seem to relate except in jest. Pappy(This message has been edited by Pappy)

Hi Lisa365, Ram rod contest. Scouts compete to break open a castle door with a log. The castle door can be two vertically standing reenforced 4 by 8 sheets of 5/8 ply. They can be secured by a two by four bolt (which will break). Robin Hood and Friar tuck competition. Boys stand on beam or log over shallow brook or pond or creek or puddle. Scouts have shafts of pvc padded with foam. Helmets would be wise. The object is to knock the opponent into the water. Very fun. Archery competition of course ala Robin Hood. Spear throwing/ tomahawk or hatchet throwing. Climbing co

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Q. 1. Am I obligated to go to Holy Mass on Sundays? A. 1. According to the Church precepts, you are obligated to attend Mass on Sunday. Q. 2. Where do I find information on these Church precepts? A. 2. "The first precept ("You shall attend Mass on Sundays and holy days of obligation.") requires the faithful to participate in the Eucharistic celebration when the Christian community gathers together on the day commemorating the Resurrection of the Lord." (Catechism of the Catholic Church # 2042) (Note: "Eucharistic celebration" means "Holy Mass.") The precept of the Church

Catholics who are shut-ins have the option to participate in a Mass by watching it on television. I am thinking that perhaps something could be arranged this way. I know that EWTN the Catholic network out of Alabama has live Masses performed throughout the day. Consecrated hosts can be brought to the camp-out and distributed by a Church member. OGE- let me know if I'm right about this. Though setting up the SAtelite dish might be tricky I suppose!. And GOld WInger- it was a Cosmic Fact that your pagan rights would inevitably descend upon this thread. I would love to watch you

I'm just enjoying sitting back and watching you old timers slug it out. And Beava- so far so good. Infact- the more I grow in scouting, as I have said, the more I come to see the wisdom of much of BSA's methods. But I have seen it so poorly executed (and by the Book) that I initially blamed the book. I am using the book more and more as I grow. But I still am baffled by scouters who sit back and watch bad situations occuring with boys during scouting and seem either unaware or unimaginitve as to what to do. Scouting without instinct and expereince and judgmnent IMHO is dea

Hi Beava, Usually we camp in areas where a church isn't too far away- so far. We made it part of our policy when we first set up our troop and pack that Mass would be a part of outings. This came right from our Parish priest- so it was nice and official. Our COs Brownie troop is currently lead by a non-Catholic Mom and some of the other mom's are fairly cafeteria(Pick and choose) about their faith- so blowing off the Sunday obilgation happens on their overnights except for a few stalwart moms who seek each other out and sneak out Sunday Morning for Mass. This is a fairly awkward situ

Good point OGE, but what I meant was not whole-sale throwing out the book, but that BW's reliance on the methods seems to imply that adherence alone will make scouting successful. It smacks of a Frank Burns-like nose in the Army Regs approach to leadership. I think this is ridiculous. There is common sense, intuition, taste, and a lot of other intangible elements that go into leading adults and boys. Great leaders are usually obedient to rules, and wise breaker of rules. This is because rules fall short of anticipating all contingencies. I have lived long enough to see many ex

Hispanic/Latino American Demographics in a Changing America Printer-Friendly Version Overview The word Hispanic is a generic term derived from the word Espaa, which is the Spanish word for Spain. People of any race who trace their family origin to a Spanish-speaking country are Hispanic. Hispanic people can be of any race. They constitute a pluralistic society of many national origins. Growing ethnic diversity will continue to create new challenges and opportunities for the Hispanic Emphasis of the Boy Scouts of America. U.S. Hispanics experienced the largest populat

Girl Scouts successful in recruiting Hispanics Associated Press S unday, January 28, 2007COMMENTPRINTEMAIL ATLANTA - A program that seeks to recruit Hispanics for Girl Scout troops has been booming in metro Atlanta, with more than 1,600 girls involved by last year in some 46 Hispanic troops. Though Hispanic girls have long been in the Girl Scouts, the organization has recently targeted those who might not speak English for specific recruiting efforts. In 2003, two years after the effort started in metro Atlanta, there were 400 Hispanic Girl Scouts in the area, said C

Boy Scouts' focus is on Latino recruiting Betty Reid The Arizona Republic Jul. 26, 2005 12:00 AM When it comes to recruiting Arizona's fastest growing population group, Arizona's Boy Scouts simply haven't been prepared. But like good troop leaders, Boy Scouts of America officials assessed their situation and are trying to adapt with a marketing campaign aimed at beefing up Hispanic membership to better reflect the state. "If you look at the demographics, if you look at how the Hispanic population is growing, as an organization we have a responsibility to offer our pr

Ola Amigos, Both of my ASM's are Hispanic - 1st Generation. One is a former Marine and now a Baker. The other is a City economic Development Director. Both are really good role models and speak Spanish. One belongs to the church in town where most of the Hispanics attend. I am hoping that we can cultivate this field by spreading the message with a messenger with a familiar face. Check out the last issue of Scouter magazine. A Hispanic Scoutmaster and his troop in CA were featured as the cover story. Also- Mexicans especially have many cultural/religious celebrations that are rea

Bob wrote...."Is it required? No more than any other Method. Is it vital in order to deliver a quality scouting program? No less than any other Method. No Method is "required", yet no Method can be left out, and still have a quality Scouting program." Says YOU Bob. But scouting by the book is NOT infallible. I have seen things done by the numbers and the program seemed to be lacking energy, spirit, and a reason for being (ANd I bet you have too.). It takes inspiration and a certain talent to be an effective leader - whether it is in the United States Army, the Police Departme

The Boy Scout Handbook pretty much implies uniform wearing, outdoor activities, and the forming of Patrols. It doesn't imply that these are suggestions but that this is scouting. It is the boy's number one guide, besides the older scout's and their Troop traditions (if there are any) , the scoutmaster's, the scouts parent's and their expectations of what scouting ought to be, and the CO. So all this talk about a minimalized scouting seems pretty contrived when on the face of it BSA makes it pretty darned clear what boy scouting is. And this is Pappy writing here - not Bob White. Ther