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  • #16
    my 0.02..
    I think sewing is an important skill however the results from most boys not interested in sewing should not be on a dress uniform. using a needle and thread for a pack or a tent is one thing insignia that is misaligned and sewn haphazardly while at a consulate discussing world citizenship another.


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    • sasha
      sasha commented
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      Staples, definitely. I've yet to find a patch I couldn't put a staple through and it holds the patch better for sewing. Flat and no pointy ends to poke.

    • jblake47
      jblake47 commented
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      Never been able to jam a lot of material into the stapler. Kinda okay for short sleeved shirts and an occasional pocket. Sewing on a JacShirt is a whole different process with a stapler. I just find pulling pins a lot easier than pulling staples.

    • RememberSchiff
      RememberSchiff commented
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      Hmmm, that is definitely thinking outside the box or patch. Thanks for the tip.

  • #17
    That reminds me we are about due for a sewing night instruction......I did it a year ago...Need to schedule a refresher course.

    Conduct uniform inspections......For every lad that has a uniform that is perfect they get an ice cream sandwich, for the patrol with the highest score they get a pizza party in front of the other patrol in patrol corners....... I give a couple of week notice.... Peer pressure is a good thing.....Last time I noticed the patrol leaders doing inspections during patrol corners....Everybody wants the pizza...... In the case of all perfects....I don't mind buying the troop the Ginormica Pizza from the local establishment....9 square feet of pizza.

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    • Scouter99
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      See, that's a pizza party. Nothing ruins the appeal of a pizza party like hot-n-ready from Little Caesar's.
      Last edited by Scouter99; 07-31-2013, 11:10 AM.

  • #18
    So for all you hand-sewers, what's the trick to sewing on the patches? The patches are so thick I need a thimble to push the needle through. It's very slow going, and I can't see how younger boys could manage.

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    • jblake47
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      DON'T sew the stupid plastic! As a hand sewer, I never have used a thimble except the first time I tried doing the plastic routine. All I ended up doing is getting blood all over the place.

      1) pin the patch in place. You do this by positioning the patch then take a pin, snag a bit of the shirt, coming back up then catch a few threads of the looped edge and then back into the shirt. Now it's anchored to the shirt. Check positioning and then do the bottom. Then for added security do the same on both sides. Now the patch is pinned in place and you have not had to jam anything through the plastic.

      2) start your sewing about a 1/4th inch under the edge of the patch, going down and coming back up at the very edge of the patch and catch some of the looping. The knot will be under the patch and unseen. Then work your way around the patch about 1/4th of an inch at a time. With square patches do a couple of stitches at the corners so they don't curl. One never sews the "Patch" only the loops on the edges.

      3) to finish off, do a stitch in the last place, i.e. the original start, but catch the thread loop before tightening down. Do that twice and the knot will hold.

      This is why I don't like sewing Velcro. 1) if it glues on, it eventually starts to peel, and if sewn on, it's like sewing the plastic on the patch, Velcro has no loops to sew to.

      Stosh
      Last edited by jblake47; 08-05-2013, 07:38 AM. Reason: typos

  • #19
    I had never thought to attach sewing through the edging. I'll have to try that soon.

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    • #20
      OK now that I know I can post something. I have had two reactions to the patch thing lately. First have uniform inspections. Second do it for them. And the do it for them guy sews the pockets shut.

      In my Opinion, Velcro for ranks is ok you should be earning those sub star ranks pretty fast and you only have to do that tricky pocket sew once. Position patches. In most cases this one should be velcro because positions are temporary, and many of us adults need it just because we have so many hats. Council patches and order of the arrow pocket flap patches. If your council makes a lot of cool parches for fundraisers you are going to want to Velcro so you can show off the cool stuff you have. And last but not least if your troop has a uniform bank and you loan out uniforms then Velcro everything so some parent doesn't ruin a good shirt by melting the plastic backing into the shirt sleeve,

      Frankly I think the patches would get on the shirt a lot quicker if we presented them with the hook already on.

      TAM

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      • #21
        If the rank is Velcro there is nothing to stop angry fellow scouts from ripping the rank off and demoting the wearer.

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        • King Ding Dong
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          Your right. But then next time they sit down they have bubble gum stuck to their uniform pants.

        • Twocubdad
          Twocubdad commented
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          "Branded! Marked with a coward's shame. What do you do when you're branded? Will you fight for your name?"

          I always thought breaking the sword over your knee was pretty bad-assed.

        • dcsimmons
          dcsimmons commented
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          Thanks. Now I'm going to regret reading this thread all day. At least until I get that song out of my head.

      • #22
        I have hundreds of kids... but if I ever have a kid of my own, every patch on a pocket, and any patch that they might have to change later on will be velcroed on. Sewing on patches? Don't really mind that. Picking out the threads from a patch that was sewed on previously? Rather irksome. Sewing a patch on a pocket by hand instead of getting to use the machine? Only going to happen once per shirt.

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        • sasha
          sasha commented
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          Taking off patches that are sewn by machine is 1000x easier if a zig-zag stitch is employed. I like to use invisible thread in the top thread, tan to match the shirt in the bottom, and the machine set to a zig-zag stitch that is wide enough to sew from one side of the embroidered edge to off the edge. Not only is it easier to unstitch, the edges never curl and it looks nice.
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