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  • #16
    The leader knot is an individual effort. Record your progress on the corresponding tracking sheet, get your committee chair to sign off on it, then submit it to your district (your DE will know who should receive it). That said, packs should be promoting this program as a way to recognize their leaders.

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    • #17
      92hatchattack: I grew up in an area where none of the leaders wore knots (except the Eagles) Here, I've seen some local leaders who wear 4-5 rows (even though the uniform policy says only wear 5). Get with your Committee Chair and Pack Trainer...you'll be surprised how easy they are to earn...and leaders like recognition just like the scouts. We should be able to recognize our Pack Leaders for all they do. A small square cloth knot really doesn't say a lot, but at the same time...it does say "We noticed, and we appreciate all you do."

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      • DLister
        DLister commented
        Editing a comment
        The Guide to Awards and Insignia recommends no more than 3 rows of knots, but since it's a recommendation and not an absolute decree, I'd call it more "wearer's discretion".

    • #18
      Our Pack hands out the Service Pins for leader appreciation. Knots have to be earned.

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      • #19
        Our Pack encourages participation to earn cub knots but I don't force it on anyone. The changes and consolidations being make to the Cub Scouting knots are really a return to way it was about 30 years ago and I like the change because we have too many knots today. Take a look at some of the older pictures of scout leaders - you will be hard pressed to find anyone that had a "fruit salad" of knots on their uniforms. I have 3 knots on my uniform but I have made a commitment to myself to keep it at a maximum of 3. Less clutter looks better.

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        • #20
          Interesting thread for me. Like 92hatchattack, I am both ADL & ACM this year.

          I've not given knots much thought to date, but i suppose it would be good form me and the program, and good to show my son that I too am working towards achievements and awards. Too bad there aren't many options for me though..... Am I missing any others?

          Just at quick glance, it looks like the Socut Leaders Training award is the only knot we would be eligible for as "A" anything. In my short time with the pack, we haven't been all that active in pursuing things like Journey to Excellence award, which is one of the requirements. I'll have to look into it.....

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          • #21
            As far as I am aware of, all knots are achievement based. Even the James West knot. It was designed so that individuals could be honored by their units when they didn't qualify for any other award. (Of course, some people make the donation themselves)

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            • #22
              all ya need for a West knot is donate $1,000 bucks......

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              • #23
                BLW: Look into the JTE, it's not that hard if you're running an active program at all. As far as the awards: A) We Earn them and B) none of them are very difficult to earn. Our hardest part has been ensuring our registrations are correct at District vs. what we show.

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                • #24
                  I'm looking forward to earning my first knot this year. It wasn't easy getting to the training and making sure I did some of the other things, but I really did want to give the boys a proper, quality program, and not a watered-down version of it. I also learned about the National Den Award, and I made sure we did everything on that list, too. That award is just a ribbon for the den flag, but that's okay. Our pack flag has a ton of ribbons on the top. It would be fun to do the same for our den flag.

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