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  • Life to Eagle seminar

    So the council charges $40 for the life to Eagle seminar.

    Looking at the Eagle app, and Eagle requirements......I am wondering.


    So what am I missing????? I looks pretty straight forward.

    What is not written in the books or requirements that would require a day long seminar, there is no list of topics or discussions on the seminar sheet????????????????

  • #2
    They're CHARGING for this??

    Have the boy choose an Eagle Coach/Advisor and receive the same services 1:1, and for free.

    There is NO requirement to attend a Life to Eagle seminar. If Council tries to mandate this, they are "adding to the requirements." Tell 'em no.
    Last edited by FrankScout; 11-08-2013, 05:56 PM.

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    • Basementdweller
      Basementdweller commented
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      Looks like it is geared toward troop leaders.

      I was considering attending, I am concerned I am missing something, but can't figure out what.
      Last edited by Basementdweller; 11-08-2013, 08:13 PM.

  • #3
    Hah, ask if they will throw in a 100' of shoreline.

    My $0.02 and I'm keeping it.

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    • #4
      If it's the same as in our council, it's geared toward both the scout and the Eagle advisor/coach/other troop leader. You can get all the info and friendly advise just by asking someone who's had experience with Eagles.

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      • #5
        Got a couple of lads who are getting close......Just want to make sure I am holding up my responsibility

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        • #6
          Base,
          $40 seems kinda steep...I'm all for learning but I hope you get a steak and a large potato for lunch.

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          • #7
            we have life-to-Eagle seminars once or twice a year, free, and Eagle coach training once or twice a year, also free. I wonder what they are providing that makes for such a charge?

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            • #8
              They are free around here, though just an evening seminar. Take it with a grain of salt as you have expressed before GSLAC has a bad program. I found a PDF of a ppt on the council site for a neighboring district. Doesn't seem to be anything that you wouldn't know already except specific procedures for who to contact etc in your district. My district holds EBORs weekly others have them less frequently. http://www.stlbsa.org/districts/boon...nar%202012.pdf

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              • Basementdweller
                Basementdweller commented
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                From what you have said about your council it's program blows......

                Well except for your SE's $380k total comp package.....that is epic.

            • #9
              $40 is nothing in my scouting budget.....But I would rather top out our weekend grub instead of buying the council service center dark roast for a month.

              Might look at neighboring councils instead.

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              • #10
                Like so many things today, people seem to think they have to have special explanatory seminars to be sure they understand plain English. I have had Eagle candidates come to me with their application and ask me how to fill it out. I ask if they read it, and they said no. What is scary is that most that reach that point are at the top of their peer groups in most areas. Similarly, we have the "feed me the answers" syndrome with merit badges. We have to have work sheets to guide us, or we cannot do the requirements. And, as we have noted here before, most scouts have never read the pamphlets for the MB's, even if the unit has them available for them.

                Of course, most of these things can be worked out by themselves if they simply try it. People want to be looked upon as capable and so on, yet they so often act as if they cannot do anything without someone guiding them or something. It can be very frustrating.

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                • #11
                  I would find out who's instructing and ask them what the objectives of the course are. More than the $, what's a morning of your time worth? I'd rather be camping. Speaking of which, time to load up. See y'all.

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                  • Basementdweller
                    Basementdweller commented
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                    Yep we were out last weekend as well, Wayne National forest. 16 miles.

                  • Sentinel947
                    Sentinel947 commented
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                    In my council, Dan Beard council, we provide a Life to Eagle Seminar a few times a year through the National eagle Scout Association. I'm pretty it's always been free with the exception of we ask for a donation to cover the cost of the pizza that we buy. Normally the seminar runs about two hours. What the heck is your council doing Basmentdweller? Otherwise, how did you like Wayne National Forest?

                • #12
                  Just read the Eagle project workbook and, if you really have time to kill, the Guide to Advancement. The only hard part is knowing what parts to ignore.

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                  • #13
                    I believe they have something like this around here too though not certain about it yet. It does sound like another complete waste of time and money. The eagle workbook explains all of this already and if you have a question after actually reading it talking to your sm is free. I find it hard to believe that no one in your troop would have enough knowledge to be able to assist a scout needing help.

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                    • #14
                      Kinda what I thought.

                      I have read the work book, might look at the GTA.


                      A lad told me he wouldn't read the work book, I am not sure what I would do.

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                      • Twocubdad
                        Twocubdad commented
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                        His choice. Sounds like a lesson on the horizon.

                      • Basementdweller
                        Basementdweller commented
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                        I was speaking of Skeptics post above.

                        "I have had Eagle candidates come to me with their application and ask me how to fill it out. I ask if they read it, and they said no."

                    • #15
                      I do not think our Council charged for the adult training, For the boys we do a Life to Eagle campout (really just an overnighter and open to Stars as well) at least once a year. I think we charge $5 for the gas and Dutch Oven meal. $40...Geesh.

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