December 18, 200322 yr So if a Troop has an active program & doesn't use the 1st Class Emphasis program you are saying they should because it's a BSA program? Ed Mori A blessed Christmas to all! 1 Peter 4:10
December 18, 200322 yr Deep breath...hold..release.... Hi Ed, I will try to say this a clearly as possible to avoid any further confusion. If you don't change what "your" Troop is doing to a scouting program, it is going to fail in the next 18 months. It has all the signs of a troop in its death roll. Any questions so far? Happy Holidays, Bob White (This message has been edited by Bob White)
December 18, 200322 yr Yet again half of us out there are not in the scouting program and are not scouts because we dont do it Bob's way, why am I so shocked, blasted Leaders Manual, foiled again by Texas. Anyone want to join my new program, Badens Boys, its actually going to be based off of what our founder planned and not what a bunch of big wigs in Texas think will protect the self-esteem and self-image of the boys, and more importantly the parents.
December 18, 200322 yr YEs I do have a question - Why didn't you answer my question? Ed Mori A blessed Christmas to all! 1 Peter 4:10
December 18, 200322 yr Hello Sturgen, There actually is a group doing what you purport to want to do. They call themselves the Baden Powell Scouts. They exist in some countries (Canada, UK) and are starting up in this US. You might want to consider checking them out.
December 18, 200322 yr This reminds me a bit of a discussion of whether a person who doesn't believe in the inerrancy of Scripture is "really" a Christian or not. Bob, do you really mean to say that a troop that follows the methods of Scouting, except for FCFY, isn't doing Scouting? Or is it that you suspect they aren't following the other methods, either?
December 18, 200322 yr "Ed's" troop by evidence of his own posts does not follow the Patrol method, leadership method, advancement method. The results are obvious in the membership recruitment, retention, and advancement of the troop. I wish the boys well, Bob White
December 18, 200322 yr ""Ed's" troop by evidence of his own posts does not follow the Patrol method, leadership method, advancement method. The results are obvious in the membership recruitment, retention, and advancement of the troop." Wow you're good! You assume my unit doesn't follow the methods you listed. Again you assume wrong. Like I said in another post, unless you see 1st hand you can't make correct judgement. Your assumptions are completely wrong. Ed Mori A blessed Christmas to all! 1 Peter 4:10
December 18, 200322 yr "Wow you're good! You assume my unit doesn't follow the methods you listed." Come on Ed, you did once say that you discouraged Patrol activities.
December 18, 200322 yr Fat Old Guy, Yeah I did but I still encourage the Patrol Method. I feel there is an inherent risk with unsupervised Patrol outings. Ed Mori A blessed Christmas to all! 1 Peter 4:10
December 18, 200322 yr Ed, you only have 1 patrol! The patrol method is more than just electing a leader. How do you see that you use the patrol method?
December 18, 200322 yr So if a Troop only has one patrol the patrol method can't be used? And in what BSA manual is that written? Let's see - the SPL was elected, the ASPL was elected & the PL was elected. I count three. But you wouldn't know that because you assumed again! Ed Mori A blessed Christmas to all! 1 Peter 4:10
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