ashleyhoward 10 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 All cleanup efforts have been halted around the area where a train derailed and pulled a bridge down over a road in Northbrook, crushing Burton and Zorine Linder, and spilling thousands of tons of coal. The Linders were in the car when the train wrecked and their bodies were discovered during the cleanup. Attorneys have filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Union Pacific railroad on behalf of the Linder estate and family. They also requested cleanup work be stopped. A Cook County judge ordered an injunction that stopped all activity within 400 feet of where the Linders were found. Local law enforcement officials are concerned about the possibility of others buried beneath the coal and debris. According to NBC Chicago, the 138-car freight train derailed Wednesday afternoon as it crossed a Northbrook bridge near Willow and Shermer. The bridge collapsed under the pull of the train. Officials with the railroad are investigating the possibility of the extreme heat causing the rails to expand, causing the train to leave the track. Burton Linder was the founding partner of the law firm Linder & Linder, and had been practicing for more than 40 years. Medical Malpractice Law News Brought To You By (spambot?) (This message has been edited by a staff member.) Link to post Share on other sites
eolesen 10 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 1) this article is three weeks old, and has nothing to do with Scouting, religion or politics... Why is it here?... spambot? 2) the bridge apparently didn't fail or collapse -- the moving train pulled the bridge off the supporting abutment. The engineering firm investigating for the railroad says that the bridge itself was intact. 3) there were five derailments nationally due to rail warping/kinking during that heat wave It's a tragic event, and I'm sure the railroad will ultimately settle with the estate, but to say it was negligence vs. an act of God is a stretch.... Link to post Share on other sites
Tampa Turtle 1011 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 And you mention this because Scouters shouldn't play with Trains? Link to post Share on other sites
moosetracker 132 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I know I am posting here, but if you look at this poster. It is their first post. It has nothing to do with Scouting. This is a news briefing, no human interaction. It ends with "Medical Malpractice Law News Brought To You By So I am betting this poster is about as human as our "Embrodery" friend. (This message has been edited by a staff member.) Link to post Share on other sites
SeattlePioneer 144 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 > Suppose people are ultimately found dead under that coal that couldn't be moved because of the legal injunction. Will the relatives of those people be able to collect damages for wrongful death from the lawyers who prevented rescue work from continuing? Link to post Share on other sites
eolesen 10 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 "And you mention this because Scouters shouldn't play with Trains? " They should not play with real trains.... They're power tools and wheeled vehicles, which are all more or less now banned in G2SS. But as a Railroading MBC, I'm all for Scouts learning about them. SP, the injunction was only granted for 36 hours, and nothing else was discovered underneath. The lawyers convinced a judge that UP might be destroying evidence critical to their case. Kinda worked in the railroad's favor, in that both sides captured lots of photographic evidence supporting the argument that the bridge hadn't failed. No part of the victim's car was higher than 27" when it was recovered. A couple hundred tons of coal raining down from 15' above the road will do that....(This message has been edited by Eolesen) Link to post Share on other sites
SeattlePioneer 144 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 > Suppose someone had been found underneath all that coal? Of course, they would only have had to wait an additional 36 hours for rescue. Perhaps next we will have ambulance chasing lawyers getting injunction against fire departments putting out fires because it might interfere withe the full consequences of someone's negligence becoming known. Sounds like a dumb thing for judges to be involved with at least until all hope of human rescue has been abandoned. Link to post Share on other sites
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