Torveaux Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Tomorrow we are having a Den Meeting at my home wherein part of the session will be earning the 'Chip'. One of the parents (an Eagle) will be conducting that training. Any last minute suggestions? We are planning on using the Ivory Soap. How many bars per boy? I really want the boys to have a positive learning experience with this. The opportunity to carry a small knife on selected outings gives the boys a sense of pride and helps them learn to be responsible. I never really understood allowing them to win knives as prizes, giving them the training, and then never allowing them the opportunity to 'use' the skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperParatus Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 1 bar per boy should be fine...maybe 2 if you want them to practice on one and create on another. I would also have a big box of bandaids at the ready. Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molscouter Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 When I did this three years ago, I had two rules. First, each boy had to have a parent present (both for safety and so both Scout and parent would know the rules). Second, there would be zero tolerance for fooling around. These were given to the boys and their parents ahead of time. Also, remember to remind them that earning the Whittling Chip only gives them the right to carry the knife at Cub Scout events. It does not mean they can carry it at school or anywhere else (and I would leave them at home for pack meetings as well). Not that it matters to a Bear den, but once my oldest reached Boy Scouts, I learned that the Whittling Chip became worthless, at least for that particular troop. They had to earn their Totin Chip before they could carry a knife a a Boy Scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Me Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Wood popcicle sticks work very well have some on hand. I excepted any animal carved in soap. The quality of the carving is not as important as the safe handling of the knife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torveaux Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 I think the band-aids will work better than popsicle sticks . Sorry, just a little bad humour. What do we do with the sticks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperParatus Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 They are used for practice knives (I believe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nldscout Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 The only thing I would tell you is not to use Ivory. Use a softer soap, like dove. Ivory has a tendancy to crumble and break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubbingcarol Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Great tip nldscout! I just wonder if the generic brand of dove will work to. Carol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nldscout Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Any kind of softer soap works fine. And another thing, DO NOT do soap carving inside. You will have a real mess to clean up. We did it at a Cub Skills day in a school once and before we caught him the custodian hit the floor with a wet mop. So now we had wet soap chips. We helped him, but I think we mopped the floor 5 or 6 times to get rid of all the soap. Do it outside and saveyourself a lot of grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torveaux Posted March 5, 2005 Author Share Posted March 5, 2005 Thanks for all of the help. In a school? Schools generally frown on knives nowadays. Funny, I remember always having a jacknife with me as a kid (5th or 6th grade up). We never considered using it on anyone, or anything for that matter. They were great for a hopelessly knotted, wet, shoelace. Mostly it was just feeling 'big' having it in my pocket. Unfortunately, outdoors this time of year is not exactly good for manual dexterity. Highs today should be about 40 degrees. I will make sure that we keep it dry until it is all cleaned up. A dropcloth may work? Too bad about the soap. I had already purchased a bulk pack of Ivory. I have the Whittling Chips for immediate recognition, and I bought the Patches as well. Do you think it is best to award the Patch at the Den Meeting or to wait for a Pack Meeting? (Caveat, our next Pack Meeting is Pinewood Derby in ten days.) Also, I have heard conflicting information on wearing the patch (or not). My understanding of Temporary Patches is that they are for wear only if specifically designated for wear (like 75th Anniversary). I have read other places that any Patch, from Pinewood participation to Scout Night at the local bowling alley can go in the Temporary spot. Is there a good spot for the official word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nldscout Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Torveaux Definatly use a drop cloth, anything will help. We always give cards and patches for this right away, then recognize them at Pack Meeting. This like any other temporary patch. You can wear one on the right pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutNut Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 A temporary patch is ANY patch that does not stay on the shirt permanently (rank, arrows, knot, world crest, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torveaux Posted March 6, 2005 Author Share Posted March 6, 2005 Thanks all. Everything went well. 5 more Cubs have Whittling Chips. No injuries, the vacuum handled the mess. We used cassette tape cases and plastic knives to practice the sharpening process as we did not have enough stones to go around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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