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What can be done, isn't always what should be done.

Your goal as a leader is to serve the Scouts.

Which way is the best way to serve these little fellows?

Is signing off on a whole bunch of requirements best for them?

Or would they be better served if the build on their skills?


Today at work we were talking about how so many of the inmates have no patience, they want what they want and want it now!

Instant gratification?

Feels good for a while, but learning and perfecting a skill pays bigger dividends.

With a young Scout.

I'd never opt for the short cut.

It sends the wrong message.



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We ignore the entire concept of FCFY. Instead we give them a steady diet of fun, friends, and adventure and have a very low dropout rate, so we're keeping them in the game. We have Tenderfoot scouts who have been in the troop for two years and rarely miss an activity. Advancement is something they eventually wake up to. In most cases they have all but one or two 2nd and 1st Class requirements to complete, but just aren't interested. They will be. And it all works out fine. When they're ready.

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Both Tenderfoot, and Second Class have cooking requirements. Yes, the requirements for T-1 can all be worked on at the same time, however the cooking requirements build on each other.


For Tenderfoot a Scout merely has to assist in the prep and cooking -


"On the campout, assist in preparing and cooking one of your patrol's meals. Tell why it is important for each patrol member to share in meal preparation and cleanup, and explain the importance of eating together."



Second Class expands on that, using additional knowledge of nutrition and planning -


"On one campout, plan and cook one hot breakfast or lunch, selecting foods from the food guide pyramid. Explain the importance of good nutrition. Tell how to transport, store, and prepare the foods you selected."



First Class puts all of his prior learning to use -


"Help plan a patrol menu for one campout that includes at least one breakfast, one lunch, and one dinner, and that requires cooking at least two of the meals. Tell how the menu includes the foods from the food pyramid and meets nutritional needs.


Using the menu planned in requirement 4a, make a list showing the cost and food amounts needed to feed three or more boys and secure the ingredients.


Tell which pans, utensils, and other gear will be needed to cook and serve these meals.


Explain the procedures to follow in the safe handling and storage of fresh meats, dairy products, eggs, vegetables, and other perishable food products. Tell how to properly dispose of camp garbage, cans, plastic containers, and other rubbish.


On one campout, serve as your patrol's cook. Supervise your assistant(s) in using a stove or building a cooking fire. Prepare the breakfast, lunch, and dinner planned in requirement 4a. Lead your patrol in saying grace at the meals and supervise cleanup."



My recommendation would be to sign off on the Tenderfoot cooking requirement FIRST. Why put the cart before the horse? This is a LEARNING PROCESS - NOT A RACE!


BTW - Webelos are NOT Boy Scouts. To have them acting as Boy Scouts and doing Boy Scout age appropriate activities as Cub Scouts is wrong, and against the BSA program. It seems that rushing these boys is nothing new.


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