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  1. Whe I stepped down as SM I joined the District Committee and am presently District Chairman.

    It's great because to help the units in the whole district with program, activities, membership, training,

    and funding. you hve a great crew if district volunteers to work with it's a great time.

  2. I never said anything about firing the CC. The CC was being arrogant and doing thing on his own without consulting with anyone....when it would directy affect his scout!! He was not appointed by the CO...

    Also, there were ASM's on the TC telling the SM what to do!!!! Te UC or COR could not find anything wrong with it....a SM was not needed in the Troop..........................

  3. Been here before with the CC..... went to the UC and the COR and the President of the CO and they were worthless......I was a puppet on a string. The TC is suppose to support the Scouts and the SM. Not supporting the SM is undermining the whole Troop program. Who spends all their vounteer time with the Scouts....the SM!!! The SM should have the last say in the program. The SM knows what the Scouts want...a fun program!!!!

  4. YOUTH MEMBER EXCEPTION: WHEN TRAVELING TO AND FROM AN AREA, REGIONAL, OR NATIONAL BOY SCOUT ACITIVTY OR ANY VENTURING EVENT UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF AN ADULT(AT LEAST 21 YEARS OF AGE) TOUR LEADER, A YOUTH MEMBER AT LEAST 16 YEARS OF AGE MAY BE A DRIVER, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:

     

    -SIX MONTHS' DRIVING EXPERIENCE AS A LICIENCED DRIVER ( LEARNER'S PERMIT TIME DOES NOT COUNT AS EXPERIENCE).

    -NO RECORD OF ACCIDENTS OR MOVING VIOLATIONS

    -PARENTAL PERMISSION GRANTED TO THE LEADER, DRIVER, AND RIDERS.

    (REFERENCE: TOURS AND EXPEDITIONS, NO. 33737)

     

     

    What is this clause in ther for? These Scouts drive and ride together to school every day, they are seniors, 17 years old.

     

    They have to go by the permission slips from the parents to the leaders for the drivers and the riders.

    Can't they even drive to a troop meeting?

     

    The only agreement I'm going to sign is a permission slip.

  5. THE PART IN QUESTION OF THE SAFE GUIDE TO SCOUTING:

     

    TROOP VERSION: IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE OFFICIAL BSA TRANSPORTATION POLICY (REFERENCE: TOURS AND EXPEDITIONS, NO 33737) THE TROOP COMMITTEE HAS UNAMIOUSLY APPROVED OUR TROOP POLICY FOR YOUTH DRIVERS. A YOUTH DRIVER IS ANY LEGALLY LICIENCE DRIVER UNDER THE AGE OF 18 YEARS OLD.

     

    IT IS THE POLICY OF THE TROOP WHEN TRAVELING TO AND FROM AN OFFICIAL TROOP, AREA, REGIONAL, OR NATIONAL ACTIVITY THAT:

     

    - THAT THE TROOP WILL ENSURE SUFFICIENT TRANSPORTATIION, IN ACCORDANCE WITH BSA POLICIES WILL BE AVAILABLE SUCH THAT ALL SCOUTS MAY PARTISIPATE IN A PLANNED TROOP ACTIVITY.

     

    - NO YOUTH UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE IS PERMITTED TO BE A DRIVER.

     

    - NO YOUTH WILL BE ALLOWED TO BE A PASSENGER WITH A YOUTH DRIVER UNDER THE AGE OF 18.

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    BSA VERSION: AN ADULT LEADER (AT LEAST 21 YEARS OF AGE) MUST BE IN CHARGE AND ACCOMPANY THE GROUP.

     

    THE DRIVER MUST BE CURRENTLY LICIENCED AND AT LEAST 18 YEARS OF AGE.

     

    YOUTH MEMBER EXCEPTION: WHEN TRAVELING TO AND FROM AN AREA, REGIONAL, OR NATIONAL BOY SCOUT ACITIVTY OR ANY VENTURING EVENT UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF AN ADULT(AT LEAST 21 YEARS OF AGE) TOUR LEADER, A YOUTH MEMBER AT LEAST 16 YEARS OF AGE MAY BE A DRIVER, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:

     

    -SIX MONTHS' DRIVING EXPERIENCE AS A LICIENCED DRIVER ( LEARNER'S PERMIT TIME DOES NOT COUNT AS EXPERIENCE).

    -NO RECORD OF ACCIDENTS OR MOVING VIOLATIONS

    -PARENTAL PERMISSION GRANTED TO THE LEADER, DRIVER, AND RIDERS.

    (REFERENCE: TOURS AND EXPEDITIONS, NO. 33737)

     

    IF THE GUIDE TO SAFE SCOUTING HAS THIS WRITTEN IN IT CAN THE TROOP CHANGE THE RULES?

  6. Is it legal to take BSA rules from the Guide to Safe Scouting and change the rules to what you want the troop to have and then have the Scout and parent sign the agreement? Who does the liability fall on then if it is not written verbatim? They also use the reference number of the publication from BSA on the agreement. If it is BSA policy, you don't have to sign any agreement to the rules, the Scout can have disiplinary action taken if he knows he has violated the Guide to Save Scouting rules, being warned by the adult leadership.

  7. I am going to speak to the Advancement Committee Chair to let him know I feel that their are concerns about confidentially with some people on the EBOR. These concerns may not be true but what that has been said to me in the last outside conversation before the last EBOR I did makes me suspicious.

  8. As a SM, I have had two Eagle Scouts and at their ECOH's I was never thanked but a lot of other people were. One Eagle Scout did not even send me a thank you card for the personalized gift I gave him. I can see why the Scout never contacted you about his EBOR even after all the weekends, evenings, vacation days and money from your own pocket to help him reach where he is today.

  9. I know the SM does not sit on the EBOR. But I, the SM do get interviewed by the EBOR and I cannot speak on what I want to say because I think words have come back to the Troop in the past.

    The last EBOR I did had the District Eagle Board(2 people), our COR and a CO member what was the Eagle candidate's neighbor. Is that fair?

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