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  1. Trevorum wrote: ---------- If I was going to create from scratch a Quality Unit program, I would craft it around the eight methods: Ideals Patrols Outdoors Advancement Personal growth Adult association Leadership development Uniform ---------- /Trevorum I heartily agree -- actually, I've been toying a bit with a sort of checklist for a solid troop program, more comprehensive and detailed than the quality unit requirements, and thought that the Eight Methods would be a good way to organize it. Now for the substance. If you were going to create a one- o
  2. By the way, that's "Venturers" and "Venturing." 8^}
  3. Very true -- I'm ONLY talking about folks who choose to wear the official "recommended" uniform: the spruce green shirt from BSA and gray pants. That uniform is totally optional for crews, who also can choose to create their own uniforms or have no uniforms at all. My point is simply that if you choose the official "recommended" uniform, you DON'T have to buy the gray pants or shorts from BSA in order to be in the official recommended uniform. Dan K
  4. From Al Bormuth, posted on the Venturing List: ------------------------- Posted last night- http://www.scouting.org/venturing/news/index.html new stuff on Trust Award announcement, New Venturing Literature Shooting Sprots Outstanding Achievement award and, from a couple of weeks ago Procedure Clarification: Venturng Advancement Procedures Venturing Firearms Policy Revision for Guide to Safe Scouting -al --------------------------
  5. To become a Venturer, you must be at least 14 years old and have graduated 8th grade, but not yet 21. Find a Venturing Crew in your area. If you don't know of any Crews in your area, contact your local Boy Scout Council. If you go to the official BSA National web page, www.scouting.org, look in the lower right-hand box for "Sign Up for Scouting," which will direct you to a Council locator and contact information. Then fill out a Venturer application form and pay the fees.
  6. It can be done simply and cheaply and without a controversial two-year process and lots of trauma. Keep what we have now, but ADD additional official pieces that can be mixed and matched, for example: In addition to the current tan shirt -- a tan shirt in modern high-tech, "wicking" fabric; and a shirt with a band collar or no collar that makes neckerchiefs look good. In addition to the current green pants -- BDU-style pants in the same green color; nylon zip-offs in the same green color; and modern hiking-style shorts in modern fabrics, in the same green color. In addition
  7. I spun off a new thread because the title of the old one, "venture uniform," uses incorrect terminology. "Venture" refers to older boy high adventure/sports patrols in Boy Scout troops. As for the VenturING uniform, it is not necessary to have BSA-issue gray pants or shorts to be in the official "recommended" BSA Venturing uniform. You need the BSA spruce green shirt, but any gray backpacking-style shorts or gray casual pants will do. See the Venturer Handbook. This is different from Boy Scouting, where only the BSA-issue green pants are part of the official uniform. There is no need
  8. SP, I'm sure you will have great success -- you will be one of the "key persons" who actually succeed because you understand the importance of getting people to help you early and often. The challenge you have taken on is to take all of the Membership load on yourself, while also trying to build up a committee to pass that load on to, and finding the resources you need to carry out the Membership Committee operations. Those are THREE big jobs. Just as in units, with the division of labor between the unit committee and the unit leadership corps, there is and should be a division
  9. I think the best candidates for unit commissioners are active, competent Scouters who have one other Scouting job doing something else, whether a unit leader or member of a district operating committee. The unit commissioner job, assuming a unit that is in pretty good shape, really can be done in just a couple of hours a month (including the monthly District Commissioners meeting). There are a few practical aspects to using the UC as a "second" job. An active, working Scouter is more likely to be current on the program his assigned unit is in, and will be sensitive to "outsiders" sticking t
  10. SP, congratulations on your new position! Membership is incredibly important, so obviously the DE was being very selective about who he was going to volunteer for the job. Since your DE is such a great recruiter, I suggest you use those skills -- and give him a little payback -- while avoiding the pitfalls of being the "key person." Tell him you won't be making any moves as Membership Chair until you have a good, solid committee behind you, say, five people. Tell him to let you know once that is taken care of, so you and the new committee can start thinking about Join Scouting Night.
  11. I understand the "Ignore this user" feature. What is the "Unsquelch" feature that appears directly above the thread on the right side, Under "Monitor this thread by email"? Dan
  12. What our district most needs to do is get away from the "key person" style of operations. This is where responsibilities (such as a camporee, or Join Scouting Night) are assigned to one individual, who is then responsible for going out and finding the people and resources needed, doing the planning, and carring out the activity. Now, on occasion, it works -- the key person has the skill to corral enough volunteers and find the resources to get it done. But very often, the key person ends up unable to get help until the very last minute, and ends up doing or trying to do everything him/herse
  13. Very true that you don't need to be in uniform all the time, especially at summer camp. However, the Uniform Method tends to work better when the boys are in uniform. I think the "activity" (Class B) uniform is intended to be practical and durable and comfortable for most outdoor activities, so that boys *can* be in uniform all of the time at summer camp if they bring a couple of pairs of Scout shorts and a few Scout t-shirts with them. Dan
  14. Sometimes terminology catches on, sometimes it doesn't. The use of "Class A" and "Class B" is widespread because people found the terms to be a useful and understandable shorthand. "Field uniform" and "activity uniform" don't seem to work as well. I also think that, unless "Class A" and "Class B" are postively banned or actively discouraged, it will be very difficult to get them out of Scouters' standard lexicon. So I would say, yes, it does make sense to officially adopt common usage. But I also agree with some other posters that there are really *three* levels of "official" uniform:
  15. I really like BW's list but I'd like to turn the part of it dealing with program into something a little more concrete: A checklist of sorts for Scoutmasters and Troop Committees and PLCs doing annual planning. Something a bit more more detailed and comprehensive than the Quality Unit Award requirements -- How many nights camping? What types/mix of camping and other activities? For new or struggling troops, it would serve as a set of goals. For great troops, it would serve as a list of "bare minimumns." Dan
  16. I found three references to this issue in the Boy Scout Handbook (I've got the 3rd printing): Page 281: "Carry food scraps home in a trash bag or burn them in a hot campfire by adding them to the flames a little at a time. You can burn wastepaper, too, but don't put plastic bags into a fire; burning plastic can release toxic gases into the air." Page 252: "Clean a permanent fire site by picking out any bits of paper, foil, and unburned food. Pack them home with the rest of your trash." Page 245 (Leave No Trace discussion): "Inspect your campsite for trash or spilled foods.
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