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I could start a new thread, but this seemed like a good spot to ask if there is any statute of limitations on receiving knots. My former pack didn't put a lot of emphasis on it until near the end of my tenure. I also get a sense that some of my fellow ASM's think they're a little showy for adults to were. However, after recently completing my leader specific and outdoor training and preparing for Wood Badge in the fall, I'm thinking that I would like to put in for them if it's not too late. Specifically, I'm pretty sure I'd qualify for the Tiger, Den, and Webelos Leader awards. Wo

I got a call last night that Bobby Scussel, the father of a former Webelos scout of mine, was found dead in his home Saturday night. I believe he was only about 30 years old. He leaves behind his wife (Christine) of just over a year, son (Nick, 11), and daughter (Katie, ~8). Actually, Bobby was Nick and Katie's uncle by birth, but he and Christine adopted the two a couple of years ago. Needless to say, Nick and Katie have had their share of troubles in their lives. Please keep the whole family in your prayers. Thanks, Dave Self

I found this thread very useful. I was looking for info on when volunteering at our District's Cub Scout Day Camp would be appropriate for 2C, Star or Life hours. FYI, my son happens to be an acolyte at our church and it is an integral part of our service and a commitment that I think could be considered. Personally, I'd encourage him to find other ways to get the hours just to get him to do something new and different. However, I don't think it is akin to passing out papers for his Sunday School teacher. Dave

I just started out dry cleaning them when we first began scouts because I just thought it would be easier on them. I only get them cleaned about once a month or so and only at the $1.89 (formerly $1.75) cleaners. It's just annoying that they'd come out with these fancy-shmancy patches that don't hold up. Does no one else dry clean theirs? Anyone?

I have found that the new Centennial Quality Unit patches do not hold up to dry cleaning. After getting them back today I noticed that the inset oval with the centennial logo was missing. Apparently, there is a quality issue with these patches. If anyone else dry cleans theirs, you may may want to attach them with Velcro as a few people in our troop have been doing with some of their frequently changing patches and badges. Have others seen this problem? Does anyone else dry clean their uniforms? I'd be interested in hearing thoughts on the general advantages and disadvantage

Thanks to everyone that has expressed their condolences to the Dominic's family. I passed the link to this thread to one of our troops ASM's who is a personal friend of his family. Some had asked if the family had a fund to donate to in his memory. The following, including information on a book fund in his honor, was published in the local paper. * * * * * Dominic Christopher Zahlis, of Columbia, died Jan. 27, 2008, due to leukemia and a stroke, at Johns Hopkins Hospital. He was 10. Born Aug. 11, 1997, in Anaheim, Calif., to Christopher and Andrea Zahlis, he attended Bollman Bri

Thanks, all. Our troop, and I think scouts from around our District, will be attending his viewing tonight. Kat, the SotE is the award we are working on getting for his family. Dave

A young Webelos in our area and who was planning to bridge to our troop in a couple of weeks passed away suddenly on Sunday. He was fine all week, but was leaving school early on Friday because he wasn't feeling well. The family learned that evening that he had an advanced form of Leukemia. He had a stroke late Friday night and was removed from life support on Sunday. Please pray for this scout's friends and family. It is hard to lose a child, but when it is so sudden, it must be even harder since you don't have any time to deal with the idea that it may happen. We felt that he w

Thanks, just thought I''d check here first. "Spoof"?

My son's Webelos den bridged in April. The five that joined the same troop he did decided to be the Chameleon patrol. Creativity is great and all, but of course we had to investigate custom patches. After several weeks of going back and forth with a couple of designs, I placed an order with BSA Custom Embroidery in June and received the order in July just before our summer camp week and our break for August. I brought them to our first meeting of the new year last night only to find that TPTB decided to consolidate the patrols and since only 2 Chameleons were present, they got matched up w

John-in-KC: Uniform Guide says "Adults shall not wear youth specific articles of uniform." GNX Guy: Den Leaders wear the "Den 11" patch or the "Alligator" den patch? infoscouter: I have *never* seen an adult Cub Scouter wear a den patch to which s/he was not entitled (by virtue of being a den leader). infoscouter, I think that was exactcly what GNX guy was saying. Den Leaders wear the same den patch their scouts wear. Although, I've always seen that as standard practice, it seems to conflict with the specific reg that John-in-KC sited. I imagine that it must be specified somewhe

All, thanks for your input. That's why I find these forums so useful. mrclark, I am not irked or bothered at this decision. I simply wanted to seek out others' opinions. The SM is new and although his older son has been in the troop for about a year, he had been more involved the pack that both of our sons were in until April. I've definitely made myself available. My former WL uniform has been calling out to me to get back in the action and I think I'll be serving as an ASM / Patrol Guide. SM have a briefing at the committee meeting on his vision for the troop and I definitely thi

Our new scoutmaster has suggested that the uniformed program Adults form a patrol to demonstrate good patrol practices to the boys. I was just curious if other have experience with this. I'm a parent of a just scout who has just recently bridge over from Webelos, so I'm just looking for opinions of other folks. The patch he had is an owl, but it has an orage border (which made me think of Hooters). I'm not sure where he got them, since I thought that offical patrol emblems had to have the standard tan / khaki background and border. Any thoughts? Thanks, Dave

BrentAllen wrote: And the evidence is that CO2 levels rose AFTER warming in the past, not before it. That kills their theory, plain and simple. Merlyn_LeRoy wrote: No, it doesn't. What needs to be shown to kill the theory is that CO2 emissions from human sources will not affect the average global temperature to a significant degree, and the above doesn't come anywhere near that. It would seem to me that IF the evidence shows that X precedes Y, then it would follow that Y does not cause X.

FScouter: " Not trying to defend his non-payment at all, but, you said "pay, or else". He chose the "or else". When it comes to registration fees or any fees, a good policy is to register those that have paid, and notify the others they have opted out." * * * True, expecpt he didn't tell us what he was choosing. This was also after he said, "Yes, please register my son and will send you a check." Of course, it was the CC that opted to register him without first gettting the money and to make the arrow without ever having gotten the money. To me the worst part isn't necessar

Thanks, kb. Yep. That's my lesson learned and not just for him. Though, I was in the scout shop yesterday before the ceremony and picked up 2 spare spiral bound Boy Scout handbooks. I'd had one parent who'd asked me about it a couple days ago and was pretty sure some one else in my den would need one. I figured someone out of the two dens would need one. Worst case, I could return them to the store. I tried to at least set a deadline with him over his son not getting his career arrow, but our CC did one up anyway. At least they'll be able to reuse the mounting since she didn't

My den bridged over to Boy Scouts last night. All the boys present in both graduating Webelos dens had earned their Arrow of Light award, with the exception on one boy who had just joined this year. OA reps had a nice ceremony after which each of the boys were presented with their career arrows. There were speeches, gifts and hugs. It was a great ceremony and, I'll admit, an emotional night. Here is where I'm a bit conflicted and may have a difficult situation once I start getting involved with my son's troop. I had one boy in my den who joined as a Bear. For first year and half or

"Bottom line: You can wear all of your knots on any uniform." This thread is talking about scouter uniforms, but I was actually looking to see if my son can where the square knot he received for earning God and Family RE can where it on his Boy Scout uniform. I know the Arrow of Light is the the "only award that from CS that can be worn on the Boy Scout uniform", but thought I'd read that square knots were also allowed. Curious, Dave

FYI, we had our day hike today. Vistied Patapsico Valley State Park today for what was originally going to be a 3.5 mile hike that ended up being about 5 after we took a couple of intentional detours. Four of our boys, including my son, went and we had a great hike. We found a couple of geocaches along the way, including one that had been placed by a local pack. They loved the treasure hunting and enjoyed some old foundations we found. We also had a fairly close encounter with a deer. She crossed our path a little ahead of us and the boys actually remained silent until she'd had her fill

Thanks, LH. At one point, I thought that it would be a relief to no longer have to try to deal with certain non-responsive parents once the boys had made the transition to a troop. It is frustrating when the boys suffer because of a lack of support at home. Last night was our final den meeting and it really was sort of sad. No matter the occassional frustrations, I will definitely miss being a den leader. I hope to be able to keep up with the ones not going to the troop my son is joining. (Hmm...It's occuring to me that perhaps I should have selected a more ambiguous user

LH, unfortunately this forum doesn't allow you to reply to specific messages within a topic, so I'm not sure if you are refering to something I said or jblake47's comments about participating in something with a troop. If the latter, I'd think that if his Webelos den is accompanying a troop on an activity, he's still doing it with his den. No? If the former, the hike we have planned will be a den hike and at least a few other boys will be along. I also thought you could be replying to Gonzo1's idea of him transitioning later. That would pretty much preclude the requirement f

Welcome. I'm new myself, but have found the forums quite informative and entertaining. I been a den leader since Tigers and my boys are bridging next week. I wish I'd discovered this resource sooner.

I talked to the scout and his mother and we are going on a 3 or so mile hike on Saturday. This was my preference from the begining. I just wanted to confirm that I was on the right track in not seriously considering spitting a single two night camping trip into two requirements or counting the two miles we covered during the KD. Our pack does two family camping trips a year, we have participated in Webelos-O-Ree both years and even joined one troop on a cabin camping trip in January. One weakness is that we've really only done one hike that we worked into Outdoorsman and Forester.

Oh, I definitely would make it more than just a walk. We'd likely include some of the items you listed. Here is another though. We covered 2 miles (in snow and ice) for our Klondike Derby this year. If a 'DH' could be in the 2-3 mile range, would you consider applying that toward AoL?

I have a Web II who has about everything he needs for Arrow of Light, except for req. 5 (Webelos overnight campout or day hike). He has gone on one overnight campout with the den that he used for Outdoorsman. We bridge in 1 week, so I know we won't be camping. However, I have offered to schedule a day hike for this Saturday if this particular boy will participate. I put out a general message to the den a month or more ago saying that some of the boys could really use one, but I'd only schedule if it I got some committments to participate (or at least replies of interest). I got only o