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  1. The SM is has no issue with letting this group sit with no POR and no advancement. I had a discussion with the SM about the group with no POR's He doesn't think any of them with end up making Eagle. He'll support their efforts if they want to do it but he doesn't think most of them are willing to put the effort in to make it. In the 2 years I have been the ASM I have been really pushing to become more boy-led and do a better job with the Patrol Method. We still have some of the long-time Adults who can't seem to let the Scouts make decisions I think it's harder to train th
  2. There used to be a way to do a spin off topic but I couldn't find the function so I started a new topic - No youth willing to be Troop Quartermaster Yes the guy has taken Scoutmaster Basic training. He just thinks the BSA program old and antiquated. As most of this has happen in the last week or so I haven't had time to talk with the COR or CC
  3. I wanted to spin this off from another posting about the comments of having an Adult Quartermaster When my son and I first joined the Troop 2 years ago there was a (youth) Troop Quartermaster. When he got elected SPL no other Scout was willing to take the POR and an adult has been filling this role ever since. Currently in the Troop there are 5 or 6 Life Scouts with no POR. When they didn’t get elected as SPL or a PL they choose not to do a POR They all have been offered the position of Troop Quartermaster but all have turned it down as being “too much workâ€
  4. How many people have you asked to be Scoutmaster? Have you taken the training “Selecting quality Leaders� http://www.scouting.org/filestore/membership/pdf/522-981.pdf Instead of waiting for someone to volunteer, follow this training and put together a short list of 3 or 4 people who you think would be a good Scoutmaster and ask them to take the position. They don’t even need to currently be in the Troop or even in Scouting. Many people are waiting to be asked and won’t volunteer for the position. Many time the people who volunteer are the control
  5. I spent well over 10 years looking for a Troop with my older son that uses the patrol method and never really found one. As a DC I was surprised how few Troops around here really use the patrol method or adults who understand how it works My son's current Troop is far and away the closest I have seen using the patrol method I have run into When I say Troop Quartermaster, he was the adult who worked with the youth Quartermaster. He is also the person who maintained the troop trailer and took it for the yearly inspection. He was also the person who refilled the propane tanks a
  6. The low turnout of the crossovers was disappointing Usually crossovers are not invited to the Feb campout as it happens the next weekend after they cross. Due to scheduling of the Klondike Derby and crossover this year we moved the Feb campout out so they had almost 3 weeks of being in the troop beforehand. The PLC took this into consideration and made this a fun cabin camping trip. Last month at the Klondike an ice storm has taken out the power at the camp but they had it fixed. As we were sleeping inside I don't think gear was the reason It seems that with this group of crossove
  7. 2 part question A little background first The SM and a long time ASM of my son’s troop, met in Tigers and both their son’s made Eagle and aged out in 2014. The ASM was the Troops Quartermaster and has pretty much stopped doing anything since last spring. The SM has been involved with the Troop since 2001 (with an older son) and has been the SM for the last 6 or 7 years. Even though the SM makes Troop and PLC meetings he just went on his first campout with the Troop last weekend. He has spent more time with his son and Daughter’s Venturing Crew than the Tr
  8. I am looking for ideas to increase attendance on monthly camping trips It’s not that we are doing bad a job compared to what else I am seeing out there but I think we can do better An example is this weekend’s trip. We are going to the local Scout camp in a rustic cabin (no Elec and a wood stove for heat). With the temperatures going down to -10 deg. Friday night we still have 25 out of 38 scouts going, but only 2 of the 8 WEBELOS that crossed over a week ago are going. As a side note - we have rented the biggest cabin at the camp and with 7 or 8 adults going the
  9. Does your Troop use the Troop Meeting Plan Worksheet? http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34425.pdf You will not find a time on this for Merit Badge Instruction.
  10. <"1. At Boards of Review (non-Eagle), the candidate is hazed. The room is set as if it were an interrogation. He is challenged on nonsensical BSA rules (does he have the correct sock on the left or right foot). He is asked questions that do not pertain to his advancement, his views on the troop, or areas he might improve. Finally, a charade is put on where the Scout is asked to leave the room while the Board "discusses" his candidacy - we do no such thing. Then, he returns and is told that "if his book is signed, he has achieved the new rank - if not, he may request another Board in 2-3-4 w
  11. I have done this before and here’s the step’s I took. Find 2 or 3 older Scouts or Venturers, no more than 2 or 3, that would be interested in organizing the event. At your first meeting have some ideas on Camp-o-ree themes and events to start things off. Usually the Scouts need ideas to get them started but once they begin most of the time they can come up with good ideas on their own.
  12. I’ve posted previously that my son is a Den Chief assigned to a WEBELOS 2 den He was assigned to this den so I could help out. I have been asked by both the Pack and Troop leadership to “get the WEBELOS ready to be Boy Scouts†Not only is this den behind in advancement (only 1 out 7 have the WEBLEOS badge) but after sitting back and observing the Den for a couple of weeks I am seeing some other behavior that just won’t fly when they move up to a boy scout troop. There is one boy who doesn’t stand during the pledge much less the promise. The other
  13. If I had the link I would have posted it but so far I have not gotten one from the DL nor can I find anything doing a search myself. I am more than just the Den Chiefs Dad in this situation. Because this Den is so far behind in advancement I have been asked by both the Pack Leadership and the Troop leadership to work with this Den so they can cross over to Boy Scouts by the B&G in Feb. I was given a copy of the Den’s Advancement record from both the Den Leader and the Pack Committee Chair. This Cub has earned all his ranks up until this point. After seeing this Den operate
  14. My son is a Den Chief working with a second year WEBELOS den. One of the reason’s he was assigned to this Den is so I could help the DL as this Den is way behind with advancement. I am currently registered as a Committee Member in this Pack. Only 1 of the 7 WELEBOS left in the Den has finished the requirements for the WEBELOS badge. (there were 12 or 13 last year) Only 2 of them have the Outdoorsman activity pin finished Last night I was reviewing what requirements were needed for the rest of the Den to get the WEBELOS badge. One WEBELOS only needs to finish the Charact
  15. Our council has a mantra of “We don’t Cancel†and will hold events/training no matter what I don’t get this attitude that holding something and doing it lousy is better than canceling the event. Here are a couple of examples: I am teaching at my council’s Scouting U tomorrow One of the classes I am teaching is in the Sea Scout section. I was copied in on an email yesterday from the other 2 instructors telling the organizer that they were not driving the +3 hours for the low turnout that has preregistered and the classes should be canceled. Thes
  16. We usually don’t have patrols bringing food to Troop meetings as it is split up either before leaving the camp site or in the parking lot at Sunday pickup. Most food is left because the patrols aren’t following the planned menu. The cans of corn were left over because the patrol was just too lazy to open and cook them. Last year we had a problem that the PL’s “forgot†to bring a copy of the menu they had planned so they had no idea what they bought was to be used for. This year has been better with the PL’s remembering menus but now canââ‚
  17. Last winter I was talking with an adult from another Troop who was just made the unit's membership chair. The Troops numbers were falling and the Pack with the same CO had folded He was looking for ideas on increasing membership A week or so later I ran into the Troop's ex-Sm who had stepped down last year He said he thought this Troop was in trouble because they don't camp None of the Scouts wanted to camp. They scheduled campouts but no one would sign up to go. So it's not just younger Scouts that don't want to camp As to getting the younger scouts to go camping check
  18. Eagledad hit it right on the mark. We meet in a church also where the Troop meeting room is used by a different group every day of the week In both cases the food was left for someone else to deal with. The only reason I know who left it was I saw the PL bring it in and talked with the person after the meeting who left it in the Troop Room.
  19. In my son’s Troop each patrol plans their own menu, collects the money, shops for the food and cooks their own meals. The problem with over buying on this campout was that the PL was going to shopping with 2 new Scouts that just joined the troop to teach them how to shop. The PL’s father decided that his son was NOT going to go shopping and the new scouts were left on their own. (I found this out at the camp out). Not only did they go way over budget (~$25 over) but I saw like 70 Poptarts and a huge box of cereal for Sunday breakfast. This was for 5 or 6 Scouts. In the bo
  20. At the last Troop meeting I saw a PL bringing in 2 full boxes of leftover food from the last campout. (which in itself is a whole other issue) When the meeting was over I saw the full boxes sitting on the floor of the meeting room and the PL gone. There was only one patrol member left which I caught just as they went out the door. The patrol member and his parent went through the boxes, threw out any open stuff, took a couple of things and said that they were going to put the rest in the Troop room the church gives us to be used later. My response was “We don’t allow
  21. I would to get to the point our patrols go camping on their own. It's only since I have joined that we have encouraged the patrols to start doing things on there own. Personally I think there needs to be a combination of "planned" activities and free time. One thing I am seeing on our campouts that with any freetime they are sitting around playing "Magic" (the card game) last weekend we went to a camporee that had over 550 events offered. I found the Scouts sitting around playing cards. LeCastor - I have lived in the Syracuse ,NY area just about my entire life except for a couple
  22. On the way home from my son’s Troop meeting I asked him if he was going on next month’s campout. He asked where it was and what activities the Troop was doing. I told him where the Troop was camping but there are no “real†activities planned it was just a camping trip. He’s said he wasn’t interested in just going camping How many of your Troops just “camp†with no planned activities? Is my son’s attitude a reflection of the times where youth need to be entertained or is “just camping†boring for a Scout?
  23. My son’s Troop is in the process purchasing more/new equipment due to a growth spurt and stuff just wearing out. We are looking a switching to using a Coleman lantern with a 1lb tank or getting LED lanterns. Currently each patrol gets a 20lb. propane tank with a tree with a hose adapter to a stove and a lantern attached to the top. The problem with these is the lantern glass breaking due to not getting the tree on correctly and the lantern falling over and letting the lantern fall over during take down. We also ran into an issue with running out of spare mantles. On
  24. I highly recommend Yawgoog Scout Reservation in Rockville, Rhode Island. Scenes in the movie "Moonrise Kingdom" were shot there. I have head that they are already full for 2015 as it's the camps 100th anniversary.
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