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  1. Per the Guide to Safe Scouting: The Cub Scout exception does not apply if she does not have a child camping, which means that she "must be currently registered as an adult volunteer." On the surface, it sounds like she would meet that requirement, as she is a registered member of Scouting America. However, I've been advised multiple times by professional Scouters that this rule requires the adult to be registered with the unit they are staying with. Simply being a registered member in another unit doesn't transfer permission to stay overnight with other units. It's possible that your council has chosen to interpret this differently. The most likely reason why this wouldn't be a violation, though, is because it was a council event according to OP's description. That may change things as it's no longer a unit event.
  2. Your previous post interpreted the Declaration of Religious Principle as "pretty much" requiring monotheism and belief in a male god. My post was arguing that there are many decades of precedence that the organization has not interpreted the Declaration of Religious Principle that way. The debate is about interpretation of the Declaration. Additionally, the adult application does not require the applicant to agree to the entirety of the Declaration of Religious Principle: It says "Only persons willing to subscribe to these precepts from the Declaration of Religious Principle and the Bylaws of Scouting America shall be entitled to register." That does not require agreeing to the entirety of the Declaration of Religious Principle and its exact wording, merely the precepts of it, which are summarized on the application.
  3. And yet Scouting America has recognized the religious emblem awards of Buddhism and Hinduism for decades. The Guide to Advancement also states that "Scouting America does not define what constitutes belief in God or practice of religion." Both policy and practice contradict the notion that one must believe in a male monotheistic god in order to comply with the religious principles.
  4. In the context of the full adventure requirements, the meaning of campout is intended to involve overnight tent camping with meal cooking: It does not say anything about "in the woods," so a park, sports field, etc. would also be options. That said, Cub Scouts requirements are always under the "Do Your Best" standard.
  5. Here's an examination of the case regarding Israeli flags: False claims about burning Israeli flags, based on ToI report, reach Congress The underlying case involves someone who was wearing an Israeli flag being briefly choked when someone tanked on the flag from behind. The case was not about flag burning or damaging a flag; it was about whether the physical assault on a person might be construed as discrimination based in part on the flag used as part of the assault.
  6. My understanding, based on some council-provided information (not from my own council, which hasn't said anything to my knowledge) is that national will send emails to the scouts' parents 60, 30, 15, 7, and 1 day(s) before they are changed, and that each of those emails will contain an option to manually renew or opt-out. The auto-renew only occurs if they do not respond. I am not saying that I agree with this approach, but it also doesn't sound like it is without notice either. On the other hand, if the unit opts-out of this new process, the unit is charged for the renewal on the anniversary date unless they manually remove the person first. That means the unit has to get paid 60 to 1 day(s) before the renewal date, or take a gamble and either drop the scout or pay for the renewal with the hope of the parents paying. Not digging that option. You might say "well if they are absent for 60 days, that's a good clue they won't be renewing," but for many cub scouts, their renewal date will be August 31 because most join through September join nights (or at least that's typical in my district). A lot of cub scouts drop off the radar for June-August. I could see this being a big problem. From my perspective, both options have their drawbacks. Sounds like we agree that this is the most likely scenario. I just wish I could get a more definitive answer.
  7. My understanding is that going forward, annual individual renewals will be done through national. They will auto-charge the credit card on file for each individual membership unless the individual opts out (assuming that their primary unit has not opted out of this feature entirely and collects dues themselves). What is not clear to me is what exactly is collected through national. Obviously the national membership fee, and I presume Scouts' Life (if a subscriber) and maybe council fees too. But what about pack/troop/crew/ship fees? Are the individual units on their own to collect those, even if everything else is being paid through national? Or is there some way for the individual unit to tell national's system how much the unit fee is? I'm a (new) unit treasurer trying to make sure we are prepared for this change, so this is a pragmatic and time-sensitive question for me. We're about to do a spring join night, and we will be getting at least one new member, so I need to make sure my unit is in agreement about the process going forward. With the new member fee going away April 1 in favor of a $5 increase for all scouts, my unit needs to revise our documents showing the breakdown of fees, and how the process works, to minimize confusion with parents. Is the following correct (assuming we do not opt out of the new process entirely)? National membership, council membership/program fee, and Scouts' Life subscription (if a subscriber) are paid through national via credit card auto-pay annually. Unit (Pack/Troop/Crew/Ship) fees are paid directly to the unit. Bonus points if anyone can point me to some documentation to pack up the answer (regarding how unit fees are paid) so I can be more prepared for committee questions!
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