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Yes...but NOT corrected and now the BSA is on the hook for an administrative charge in teh tens of millions if they tried to get out of teh Deal. So, they screwed up TWICE.

Because they need friends. Because it lets the coalition crow about a historic trust amount when what's historic will be the low amount of awards. What the TCC wants is settlements but NOT what the coalition is willing to take. Remember...right now teh Coalition firms are already splitting 425 MILLION dollars.....anc ounting.

I don't follow this argument. Consider the Survivors who DID have cases in court and those who were working tirelessly to change SOLs. A permanent injunction ELIMINATES those cases and imposes awards on Survivors that are pennies of what they would have gotten in court. Those awards....paid by the insurers. The same ones that will now rush to settle for pennies as The Hartford did.

The BSA couldn't care less about the insurance companies as long as it has a "coalition" helping them out to accept insurance deals. Remember, the old saying is "you need friends in bankruptcy." The BSA's goal is to give away ALL insurance policies or settlements to a trust and move on. As far as the future, here's another reality, insurers LOVE companies post-bankruptcy because there's a clean slate and no surprises. So, there's no reason to think thatthe BSA has back romm deals going on. Their goal is to NEVER be a defendant for anything that happened in the past. That's the work of the Trust taking on the insurers.

I want to say this with all due respect if you are a Survivor, and respect for your personal wishes. But, for many Survivors there is a realization that "moving on" isn't as easy as seeing this bankruptcy resolved for the BSA first and foremost. Remember, this is the BSA'S VOLUNTARY bankruptcy and Survivors were dragged into it. For many that had "good" claims working their way through the legal system this will forever deny them their day if a permanent injunction is granted. For those hoping for a change in SOL it also dashes thoses hopes. I TOTALLY understand any Survivor wanting resolution. But after waiting decades for most we ALL have to think about the day after a bankruptcy is resolved or a check comes in the mail. Then what? How much "moving on" will there be? I suspect that will be a fleeting feeling and there's teh great possibility that a horrible settlement will only amplify the feeling of being victimized, again. I respect the feelings f any Survivor who wants this over and completely understand why anyone in the BSA would feel that way. But for most Survivors the next step for "moving on" comes with NOT feeling like the only groups that benefitted were the professionals and BSA, at the unreasonable expense of the Survivors.

I'm optimistic that this horrible settlement will go down in flames. But, as someone connected to this said to me the other day, "we all live in our own echo chambers." The folks on this forum are very well informed and I've been so impressed how open-minded all sides have been. My concern though is that a lot of Survivors are in the dark and now about to get some bad advice. I understand how some want this over with, I really do. But every Survivor needs to consider the "morning after." This is our ONE shot and most have waited decades. If it fails I hope the TCC can make good on its promise to be the side of "better." If it's accepted I hope Survivors will get some sense of resolution but I truly believe this plan will make many, from those in bad States to ESPECIALLY those in good States feel like they have become victims again. Hey let me end on an optimistic note. I'd like to officially request that the moderators create a forum on 12/15 for everyone to make their voting predictions so we can see whose prognostication skills are best!

Well, just about any group can petition to be a "mediation party" so their inclusion was SOP. Unfortunately 82,500 survivors are going to be the example of how mass tort bankruptcy has become a cottage industry for the legal and financial professions. I think the group that was screaming loudest regarding their muscling in and power was the Coalition. The judge has shown that she isn't buying it by already saying their fees would be thrown out of the current plan and she also cast doubt on a successful payment after plan approval unless the plan has widespread acceptance, Consider as well that in bankruptcy the old saying is "You need a friend" and the BSA found one in the Coalition since it was willing to accept the lowball Hartford deal AND little youth protection change AND a trustee that is hand picked by the coalition (who also control trust governance based upon its membership). The TCC has continued to represent Survivors and is clawing for every vote and educate Survivors. If the plan goes down it's a new ballgame and the TCC can say "You all had your shot at this....now it's time to cooperate." If the BSA wants to get out of Bankruptcy it'll listen. Bonus crystal-balling... A TCC plan will NEVER go out for a vote, The judge won't let it drag on that long. She'll send it to mediation with a message between 12/21 and a month later and if the parties can't agree she'll DISMISS the bankruptcy and tell the BSA "You had your shot at this voluntarily and couldn't pull it off. Lawsuit injunctions are over. Best of luck." And then....well...if the BSA really is the "melting ice cube" it said would melt last August, then this November, well.......

I don't remember if I said this in this forum or another, and I hope we merge soon, but it was embarassing. Rothweiler starts by crying about how he's working day and night? Where do I sign up for that and its payday? What really threw me though was this disconenct...he said at the beginning that they had 2,000 viewers. Okay, let's say we believe that. 2,000 of the 70,000 clients they represent? Not good. They then answered 19 questions in 45 minutes. The week before the TCC answered over 200 in an hour. So you tell me: 1. They weren't prepared to answer questions? 2. Their clients are so well informed they didn't have any questions? 3. The questions they got they didn't want to see the light of day so they didn't answer them? I'm not a Coalition client but I'm curious. I posted a question that they wouldn't see was positive to their cause and it never appeared because they didn't answer it. The whole performance wasn't pretty and if I was a Coalition client who asked a challenging question I'd be pissed. They'll be back Tuesday night and I hope for those clients' sake it goes better.

Damn right. This is so amazingly token it's yet another example of the BSA setting a new low for the least it can do. ONE vote in a closed-door meeting. The fact that the Coalition was touting it shows they don't get it either.

At the last Town Hall meeting the comment was made that the focus is on the current plan since THAT is what's being voted on. If I were the TCC I'd let that mess of a plan take a bit of a beating for a while before releasing all or parts of their plan. Stay down in the fox hole until the time is right to attack! That said, maybe some will be discussed Thiursday at the next Town Hall?

Don't know if you saw the last TCC Town Hall. Kennedy took the online YPT training and besides it saying that 25% of abuse is youth-on-youth, when the former head of Youth Protection who has seen the reports says it's actually 50%, he was allowed to take the test and get his YPT certificate without completing an entire module on bullying. I'm just tired of shaking my head over the constant breakdowns in youth protection. "$h*t happens" isn't good enough when it comes to the safety of the nation's youth.

An interesting mention in the Coalition "Not ready for Prime Time Players" performance....Rothweiler going on about how the BSA will allow ONE Survivor to be on its Board and how historic that is. Seriously...ONE Survivor with a voice behind closed doors? He doesn't get it. The TCC at its meeting laid out that a BSA-controlled committee of short-term duration and no third-party oversight wasn't sufficient and the Coalition's response was basically "We'll let on Survivor take care of it." This for me really encapsulated this plan. It's all "a start" but certainly not enough. The BSA and Coalition are working hard to get this over with and like the dollar amount, doing the bare minimum.

Last night they were allowed to suggest how Survivors should vote, and did...and their Zoom backgrounds for Kennedy and Humphrey included the TCC logo and in Red Caps VOTE NO.

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Can you share your Council's dashboard as prepared by the TCC and demonstrate the fault with it? I know that teh TCC has said it's trying to get the BSA to agree to releasing all the dashboards, and has filed motions to do so, but arguments like yours can be validated by all of us only when we see the data. Then, we can all assess whether the demands are unreasonable or unrealistic. The TCC said its dashboards and requests would leave Councils with two years of operating funds AND preserve their credit rating. I find it curious that all we've heard from Councils is "That's not true" but no actual numbers to support it. When nationally the LC contribution in this horrible plan amounts to less than 20% of available LC assets according to the TCC it raises a lot of questions why Councils haven't been more aggressively fighting the settlement, and suggests the TCC is correct. There might be Councils like yours that aren't the norm but still, "show me the money" LCs.

Sorry if someone has mentioned it but TCC Town Hall tonight. Zoom link: https://pszjlaw.zoom.us/j/82272826295 (no registration required) or by telephone: 888-788-0099 (toll free), Webinar ID: 822 7282 6295

Nope, just a procedural change due to the circumstances. They serve subpoenas instead of filing motions in this instance so they're still participating.

My two cents.... I sat there watching the presser today with mixed feelings. Survivors, of which I am one, need to know they are not alone and that what happened to them could have been prevented. We need to feel that it wasn't our fault. We need to know that we're being heard and believed. We want to feel like things will change and what happened to us won't happen to another. Mr. Johnson's comments and obvious grief aided all of those. But at the same time I couldn't help but remember that his comments came after he had been let go and a bit over a year since he publicly defended the policies he oversaw. I couldn't help but think about the 627 claimants who are now a part of this bankruptcy because they were victims of abuse during the years of his employment, or how many others hadn't come forward because we know this is so hard for younger people to do so. I'm hopeful this will create change. I'm hopeful Congress will take notice as it has with USA Gymnastics and other Olympians. I'm hopeful that this will help bring about changes in bankruptcy laws. I'm hopeful that the TCC will present a plan that takes abuse prevention MUCH more seriously than the current one does. But there's still a part of me that wants to say "Thank you Mr. Johnson, but I wish you hadn't waited a decade to speak up."

As a reminder...TCC Town Hall Thursday night. I have to believe the Survivors will have something to say about this.

https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/press-releases/boy-scouts-of-america-appoints-michael-johnson-as-youth-protection-director/

https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/press-releases/boy-scouts-of-america-appoints-michael-johnson-as-youth-protection-director/

BOOM: https://www.andersonadvocates.com/former-10-year-boy-scout-youth-protection-director-blows-whistle/ Scouts BSA is Not a Safe Place for Children Today, Congress Must Take Immediate Action Scouting is High-Risk, Does Not Meet Minimum Safety Standards BSA Allows Predators Overnight Access to Kids Press Conference: Tuesday, October 12 at 1:30 p.m. ET (Washington, D.C.) – At a press conference, the 10-year former Youth Protection Director for Scouts BSA (formerly the Boy Scouts of America) will speak out about the dangers that Scouts BSA pose to children right now. He will also: Present an open letter, given to members of Congress, urging them to begin investigations and hearings immediately into the dangers that exist and the cover-up of abuse Reveal BSA policies that allow predators access to children today Expose how current Scouts BSA leadership and business model foster danger, secrecy, abuse and cover-up Disclose details on former detective refusing to sign NDA, non-disparagement agreement Demand full disclosure of hidden documents and identities of all predators, past and present Demand release of internal expert analysis that identifies known perils within BSA Demand full disclosure of the perversion files kept secret

BOOM: https://www.andersonadvocates.com/former-10-year-boy-scout-youth-protection-director-blows-whistle/ At a press conference, the 10-year former Youth Protection Director for Scouts BSA (formerly the Boy Scouts of America) will speak out about the dangers that Scouts BSA pose to children right now. He will also: Present an open letter, given to members of Congress, urging them to begin investigations and hearings immediately into the dangers that exist and the cover-up of abuse Reveal BSA policies that allow predators access to children today Expose how current Scouts BSA leadership and business model foster danger, secrecy, abuse and cover-up Disclose details on former detective refusing to sign NDA, non-disparagement agreement Demand full disclosure of hidden documents and identities of all predators, past and present Demand release of internal expert analysis that identifies known perils within BSA Demand full disclosure of the perversion files kept secret

Bates White, working on behalf of the DEBTOR, and in this case the RESPONSIBLE party, had every reason to lowball estimates. Claro, working on behalf of the SURVIVORS....not so much. This might put a very interesting perspective on things.

Besides the TCC discovery demands that came out today THIS is huge: Order Authorizing And Approving The Tort Claimants Committees Application For Entry Of An Order Under 11 U.S.C. §§ 1103(a) And 328(a) And Fed. R. Bankr. P. 2014(a) Authorizing Retention Of The Claro Group LLC As Expert Consultant On Sexual Abuse And Expert Witness Effective As Of September 1, 2021 (Related Doc # [6287]) Order Signed on 10/8/2021. (CMB) The TCC has retained a firm to act as an expert witness and begin the process of valuing claims. Claro has been used in many other cases to get an idea of values based upon historical settlements, SOLs, etc. Remember thatthe TCC was trying to get an estimation motion" approved but was swimming upstream when the parties decided it would take too long. So, if this plan has the votes or is close the TCC will potentially have the ammunition to demonstrate that the values are unreasonably being compensated too little. They are the real deal: https://www.theclarogroup.com/