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That is nonsense.

 

It is like saying that criminals do us all a public service by strengthening our support for law and order.

Ha ha, good point.  Nothing says supporting law enforcement officers like going out and committing a few B&Es.

I'm a former board member at a charter school. A charter school is a public school with some freedom in curriculum and staffing. However, you still have to follow the same rules as public schools. 

 

Ultimately they can try to restrict membership. They can do it overtly or covertly (not promote the troop outside of the school, etc.) but I would strongly advice against it and would encourage them to consult with their attorney before doing so. 

 

A charter school is a business. Its primary purpose is education but it also needs to attract members of the community to choose to send their kids there. What kind of message does it send to say we don't want your kids to mingle with our kids? Would you want to send your kids there?

From the OP's post it sounds more like a security concern as opposed to overt exclusion of someone based on a protected class.  I don't think it's sending a negative message to say "for the safety of our students, members of Pack/Troop XXX must be registered students of XYZ Charter Academy."  

 

2009 Bear Grylls becomes Chief Scout (when not hospitalized from results of dangerous stunts) Membership 499,323 by year's                    end

A bit off topic, so sorry for the derailment.  But is this a problem with US Scouting / BSA, in that we have no (few?) real scout spokesman or role models, that scouts actually want to emulate?  Of course we have scouts that go on to do great things, but do we have figureheads that a scout says..."gee I want to do what he does and be him."?   

I know of Mike Row, but does he promote his Scouting past in any kind of official position?  Any others?

I did some research on Scouts-L and found that the unit in question does indeed run a clandestine co-ed program. It works in Cambridge...

 

More info and an article on the unit can be found at:

 

http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/08/07/girls_not_allowed/

 

The Pack/Troop/Crew are combined using LFL to add the females.

 

It's only a matter of time. Money and lawyers will determine the outcome.

Any link to full article without pay site?

With all due respect you, intentionally or otherwise. 

 

Col. Flag asked what BSA gained from making a stand on this policy, rather than staying status quo....

 Thanks for the play by play recap, though I'm not really sure it was necessary.  He asked a question, I responded; though apparently not to your liking.

I would also strongly disagree that it is an ad hominem attack, as I am not attacking him, but his position.  The best argument would have been that I was building a Straw Man argument or making an appeal to emotion, either of which I may have conceded, but certainly not an ad hominem attack.

The comparison of this position of refusing admittance to segregation is also a fair one, in my opinion.  Now, just as then, many had strongly held beliefs that they were somehow morally superior to those of black skin, and by allowing them to comingle with their kids, they would somehow contaminate them.  How is this different than the opinion that girls, gays, and trans are unworthy of being Scouts and going to dissolve everything BSA has achieved?

His moral perspective differs from yours, so he is wrong?

No, he's not wrong because he has different morals.  I made no such blanket statement.

He is wrong though if he thinks it's ok to discriminate against one particular set of children.

Again I will ask, what did BSA gain from making this change? They've lost a great deal, but what did they gain?

You could have just as easily asked, what did they have to gain by letting "Colored kids" go to schools with white kids?  I'd say they have the gained the moral high ground by doing the right thing. 

I believe now, just as then, you're on the wrong side by believing either decision is the wrong move.

Thanks for the answers everybody.  Appreciate it.

Does the Journey to Excellence follow the calendar year or the Scout year? If the Scout year, are we working towards the 2017 award now?

The YPT question is this.  If a girl registers as a boy (for whatever reason), must the scout unit have a female scout leader at the activities?  

 

My guess is the answer is yes.  BSA will see this as a potential liability.  A female scout leader will be required.

 

Since BSA will have no way of knowing if any registered scout is actually a boy or a girl, they will have to require that all Boy Scout activities have a female unit leader.

What about an adult scout leader who "identifies as female"? Will that fit the bill?

You just do the best you can.  I hope I'm not the one bleeding in the street while 2 jokers are trying to out-do each other with their Red Cross cards and arguing about what to do.

Completely agree. Many studies have shown that poor or incorrect CPR is better than no CPR.  Delaying treatment because a lack of credentials or waiting the "ideal" first responder is not the right answer.