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  1. "We told the District NO one year and they came to our Blue and Gold uninvited and struck before the Pack leadership could respond......We were serving food and he came in walked right up on stage and started the presentation." They seek into ECOH's and do it here too; just plain tacky IMO.
  2. "We told the District NO one year and they came to our Blue and Gold uninvited and struck before the Pack leadership could respond......We were serving food and he came in walked right up on stage and started the presentation." They seek into ECOH's and do it here too; just plain tacky IMO.
  3. Percentage that comes back to the units: 0% All the money that is generated from FOS stays in the council office. In our council if you meet your FOS goal you get 15% of the use of camp during one off-season weekend. WHOOP-DE-DOO! Using camp is still 10 times more expensive than taking kids out into the National Forest for regular camping.
  4. I live here: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informe...ve_hate_groups In addition to the active KKK groups listed above there are an additional 20 different white supremacy groups which hold active chapters in the USA, listed here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...#United_States Where do you live?
  5. We kept the number and still had the CO, we just weren't allowed to meet in the Church or attached School as long as Mormons were present. The Pack moved, granted it was only 10 miles to a community building that didn't care who attended as long as we paid for the space each month. The only thing that changed was the location.
  6. Here is a question: Why does it matter to you, as a SM, what the lads religion is or isn't? Did the lad actually say, "Hey Mr. B, I'm atheist." or could you simply let it go and assume he said, "Hey Mr. B, I'm a theist." Simply letting atheist spell the word with an extra space could solve a lot of problems. Not to mention that the sentences sound exactly the same!
  7. I will have a 13 year old eagle if he schedules his Board of Review anytime soon. It depends on the kid, his brother is 16 and still only Star. If you have a highly motivated kid who does everything he's supposed to age should not be an issue. I've heard similar grumblings here, which is why you have to document everything. My son decided when he was 10 years old that he would make Eagle before his brother and set himself on a course to do so. I'd hate to see any child punished for being motivated and industrious.
  8. Basementdweller & WAKWIB There still are councils who practice racial discrimination; now they just do it under the guise of "allowing units to choose their membership." Most of the units are sponsored by churches and a lot of churches do not allow non-whites to join their congregations, hence they are prohibited from joining the unit as well.
  9. The short answer is yes. I was with a Pack that was moved because the Chartered Organization no longer wanted to provide a meeting place after the CM registered a Mormon family. The Pack was given the option of either kicking the boys out or meeting elsewhere; we choose to meet elsewhere.
  10. Instead of "Faith has two meanings" maybe you should approach it from the perspective of "Many meanings have Faith." I thought about this today after adding a new word to my lexicon. The word was "Catamount" and I had never come across it before. I was reading a book set in Appalachia which included a passage about a fearsome catamount who was terrorizing the families in the glen. The description and choice of words evoked an emotion (fear.) Not being familiar with the word or Appalachia I thought it might be a dangerous mythical creature not unlike the Lock Ness Monster or Big Foot. I lo
  11. Typical Christian form. A Muslim, Jewish, or any other payer would be very different. Muslim: "Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Universe, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful! Master of the Day for Judgment! You alone do we worship and You alone do we call on for help. Guide us along the Straight Path, The path of those whom You have favored, Not the path of those who earned Your anger, nor of those who went astray. Amen." Jewish: "Blessed are you, Lord, our God, sovereign of the universe Who has sanctified us with His commandments and commanded us to light the l
  12. Confidential files turned over for a lawsuit set to go to trial in Minnesota may shed new light on the problem of sexual abuse within the Boy Scouts of America. Attorneys for one former Scout won a court order for the nationwide internal files, commonly known as "ineligible volunteer" or "perversion files." They cover the years 1999-2008, much more recent than similar files forced into the open in an Oregon case last year. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/files-detail-sex-abuse-boy-scouts-20193511
  13. True. I have friends that can't earn a religious emblem because BSA has not approved one yet. At least the "rest of us" can still celebrate Festivus!
  14. Isn't there a place where old threads can go to die???? With Trail Life taking the "Fundies" won't this become a non-issue now?
  15. My Aunt's favorite prayer is: "May God bless all my enemies with a limp; that way they will be easily identified and avoided. And if necessary I'll be able to out-run them. AMEN." I hope Trail Life becomes a private christian club that no one has ever heard of. There is one Royal Ranger group here and another that I know of 2 counties north. I have met a Royal Ranger, and like the kids from AWANA, he wanted to be a boy scout, but his parents religious views prevented it. I think that like Royal Rangers, Trail Life may become a holding tank for the wing-nuts; which gives us the opportu
  16. Duckfoot: ROFLMAO! Diversity? In Scouting? Where???? (We need to know so we can put a stop to that!) If by "ticket" you are referring to Wood Badge, then no, I didn't see real diversity or diversity training. The diversity section of my WB course said to include multiple GENERATIONS, not colors, ethnicity, religions, etc. There was small mention of interacting with "other" socioeconomic groups as well (A.K.A. the poor) but not to much interaction, the poverty could rub off! The LDS hold their own events so as not to mix with the others, because they aren't "real Christians" you know
  17. We have a whole troop joining Trail Life here. The troop was pretty closed to begin with, so I guessing you just hit the nail on the head, they gay vote was just an excuse to leave. This particular troop only allowed boys in if they were Catholic and attended the local Catholic school. If your parents couldn't afford to send you to the Catholic school, you family wasn't "Catholic Enough" to join the troop. Their former SM was a good friend of mine and was recently kicked out of the troop & KofC because he wasn't "Catholic Enough" either. (This was a man who double-fisted his rosary
  18. Exactly! The YP guidelines keep those of us who aren't pervs out of being falsely accused. Nothing will stop the pervs but vigilance, by the leaders and the boys. We have a local lawyer (also a scout leader) who specializes in sexual abuse to talk to our scouts about once a year. He discusses one major aspect of protection a year. Like you, I keep my eyes and ears open, and thankfully, I haven't noticed anything predatory. If I do, I will have no problems reporting it. My boys don't attend camp in our council anymore because the camp dose not comply with YP Guidelines. We were there i
  19. qwazse: Our church charters a Girl Scout Troop and a Boy Scout Troop. There is pretty heavy rivalry between the girls and boys; with the girls generally winning. They have won the events at Fall Camp O'ree two years running and have proudly displayed the traveling plaque in the "Scout Room" for all the boys to see. This year the girls were disappointed to learn that they have been prohibited from participating in the Fall Camp O'ree or any other Boy Scout events. Apparently the other troops complained to the camping committee when the girls won. My niece runs her own trap line every ye
  20. Two things you have to ask yourself: 1. Who pays for the testing? 2. Will it be reliable? It's one thing to screen folks for routine 1-on-1 contact. But there should be no 1-on-1 contact in the BSA! Is there a test that will find the guy/gal who will violate the 1-on-1 principle? Can you identify the person who will assault their colleague before the do it? You can screen out applicants that have a disproportional amount of deviant tenancies. Most of the testing is computer based so after you've paid for the software, an organization like BSA would only need 1 or 2 people in interpret
  21. Exactly! The YP guidelines keep those of us who aren't pervs out of being falsely accused. Nothing will stop the pervs but vigilance, by the leaders and the boys. We have a local lawyer (also a scout leader) who specializes in sexual abuse to talk to our scouts about once a year. He discusses one major aspect of protection a year. Like you, I keep my eyes and ears open, and thankfully, I haven't noticed anything predatory. If I do, I will have no problems reporting it. YP guidelines only work if they are enforced. The problem is that professional scouters, not only don't make sure they
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