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Lisabob, I am a supporter of NYLT. I think your scouts will get positive things from it even if the Scoutmaster is not fully supportive, although the Troop will benefit more if he or she is. Some things will be useful without Scoutmaster support. For example, if a Scout becomes better at resolving conflict that will be put to use without any permission from the Scoutmaster. On the other hand, if the Scout wants to make some changes to the vision of the Troop, or try and articulate a vision if there currently isn't one, then the Scoutmaster can be a real roadblock if there is no support.

One item I found very useful at Philmont was a small rubber "spoonula" - it is a cross between a spatula and a spoon. I found that I could scrape my bowl clean with it - no need for the repeated washing out with water and drinking the resulting glop. I found mine at a higher end cooking store.

Interesting. We are no longer supposed to have unique names for NYLT, yet page 56 of the 2009-2010 insignia guide shows a NYLT flag that says "National Youth Leader Training" followed by "Golden Acorn."

One way it can have errors even if it is THE insignia guide is if it contradicts itself. On page 42 it shows the commissioner arrowhead award being worn between the position patch and the trained strip, but on page 49 it states, regarding the trained patch, that "Commissioners wear this emblem between the emblem of office and the arrowhead honor."

Jim, There are others on this forum with more expertise, but I will take you through my thought process as it might be helpful to you. As I have weighed the pros and cons of down vs. synthetic I have always come down on the side of synthetic for youth. To me, the risk of a wet useless down bag outweighs the benefits of weight since most of the boys on my Troop are slowed down on a backpacking trip more by the speed of the adults in the party than by the added weight of a sleeping bag. And I never wanted to put myself in the situation of explaining to a parent why their son experienced hyp

I always remind the boys to never breathe into their sleeping bag. It is so tempting to fill that space with warm breath, but many don't realize how much moisture comes out of our breath in a night, resulting in a damp, clammy bag.

Not sure emb...I thought I had seen it on the Wikipedia list of famous Eagles. Obviously mistaken. At least Hank has said he made it to Eagle!

Mike Judge, creator of "King of the Hill," is an Eagle Scout. I imagine some of his experiences are in the show.

Have a Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean and Reverent Christmas.

1. No. There is a red, white and blue knot for wear on the uniform by an adult. Why isn't that enough? 2. 1980. Court of Honor was after my 18th birthday. I wore my uniform with my life patch during the court of honor, which I now know to be incorrect (it was five days after my 18th birthday). After the ceremony put the Eagle patch on the shirt where it remains to this day. Never wore the shirt since (got a new uniform - that's when they changed the last time.)

All this and not one serious reply to my original question. Anybody think that the new insignia guide will have to modify the instructions for placement of the World Crest on the new uniform? Any other comments, please take them to a new thread.

I placed the World Crest half way between the top of the pocket and the shoulder seam, and it is almost completely covered by the corner of the collar. Anyone else have this problem?

>>Forget patrol method when you talk about NYLT. That is not what it is about Not sure I understand this statement. The patrol method is a method of Boy Scouts, NYLT is for Boy Scouts, therefore the patrol method should be a part of NYLT, just as we wear uniforms during the course because the uniform is also a method of Boy Scouting. At my council's NYLT course we use the patrol method - boys camp by patrol, cook and eat by patrol, engage in activities by patrol, have patrol names and flags, take turns being the patrol leaders and going to patrol leaders' council meetings, go on an

There are a few things in this thread I find curious: - People make the assumption that because I favor the tradition of local names I also favor not teaching the NYLT syllabus in its totality and in the order it is written. Both of these things are stated as requirements to deliver NYLT and I am not linking having a local name with disregarding the rules. - There is the argument that having a local name will prevent a job applicant or college applicant from listing a recognizable term like National Youth Leadership Training on an application. I believe that a listing of, for example "Ceda

I am not sure about the rose smelling as sweet. People don't say that they drive a hybrid drive small car made by Toyota, they drive a Prius. People don't go to watch the National Football League team from Chicago, they cheer on the Bears. Earlier posts about confusion about a course being an NYLT course or not, or about local courses taking liberties with the syllabus content are adequately addressed by the current policy of appending any local name with "NYLT" and by the committment to presenting the entire syllabus in the order it is written. I am not talking about breaking the rules.

BDPT00, Yes, you hit the nail on the head. I am not proposing a change to the name "Wood Badge," I was just using that as an example of a name that has great tradition, meaning and value far beyond calling the course "National Adult Leader Training," which I feel is what is happening to NYLT. Since the new changes to NYLT have already been discussed elsewhere in this forum, I didn't realize that not all who read this were not aware of the proposed changes - my fault. With this clarification, I still await someone who might know the reason to clue me in on what the problem is with local

Can someone explain the reason to do away with names for NYLT courses? What is the harm caused by having a local course name, as long as it is used in conjunction with "National Youth Leadership Training" or "NYLT?" What would the harm be of having at least a nation-wide name instead of the generic "NYLT?" Having a name gives us the opportunity to create some allure about our course for the youth participants (and the adults as well). Names are important in marketing every product. Businesses spend lots of money developing and testing names for their products because it influences how we