eaglescout1996

Just remember that the ladies shirts on closeout are the ones with the shirt pocket "bellows".

 

My wife has one of those shirts and has only worn it once as she prefers her older Ventering Spruce Green shirt as it doesn't have those pockets.

 

Good luck with WB.

Another solution to the pin type name tags is to put a piece of cardboard behind the shirt that is the exact same size as the name tag.

 

That way it keeps the name tage completely flush against the shirt and prevents it from getting snagged on things, and the cardboard also acts as a spacer for the frogs (or dam*its) so they don't pass through the thin metal and poke you in the chest.

 

I've been doing it that way since ROTC in college.

In our lodge, the Lodge Chief wears the "Council Executive Committee" and silver loops. The Vice-Chiefs do not.

 

I think Shortridge hit it on the head....in our lodge we have six weekend-long events not counting LLD, Winter Banquet, Day of Service, Section Conclave, Regional/National Events (Like NOAC, Summit Corp, Indian Summer), and we have a very active Section with lots of CoCs and weekend-long planning sessions.

 

A good chief in an active lodge has his hands full.

 

 

Awesome news!

 

Our staff group at Jambo were talking about it this summer, especially after we had reps from Sweeden looking at our operation.

 

I can't wait to get a look at BSR this summer as I'm on our Lodge contingent for Summit Corps.

If the AVERAGE boy doesn't know he can earn the World Conservation Award, then the AVERAGE boy isn't reading his HBs.

 

I earned it just because I earned those MBs, but I knew that I could since I had read my book and it was right there. Actually, I didn't even wear the award until we moved back to the states. Everyone in TAC wore the council round patch as there temporary insignia, so I had the patch for at least two years before I even sewed it on my uniform...and there it stayed as my only temporary insignia until I aged out at 18.

 

I also received a personalized letter from the DFS....which goes a long way when your 13.

There also needs to be a link from the scouting.org homepage.

 

If you do a search for "boy scout" on Google, it takes you to scouting.org.

I ordered two before I headed to Jamboree this summer. The package I didn't open I noticed that the stiching had come apart from where the strip is sewn to the ribbon.

 

I don't know if it was just me, but I recieved a lot of Jamboree stuff where I could tell their was no QC or the workmanship was just plain bad. Both of the Staff patches I recieved in the mail before Jambo had the back grounds cut off center...the left was about 1/8" from the edge of the stiching and the other was at least 3/8". I tried to trim them even, but all that did was make that stiff background they used fray.

 

Good luck, I called supply and they told me I could bring it to Jamboree and see about swapping it, but was told that was highly unlikely.

 

 

Our council is supporting it...I actually went through a PPT during the August RT and then did a reminder at the September one.

 

We recieved a lot of good responses and a majority of our units have customized their pins.

'92

 

We really promote the European Camp Staff Program and usually have at least one person from our council go over there each year.

 

We're sending a pretty decent contingent to Sweeden this summer and at our last meeting we were approving applications for youth that are heading to Japan for the SAJ/BSA Friendship Program in February.

 

We even had a patrol of Scouts from Saudi Arabia in one of our NSJ Troops this summer.

I'd have to go back and look at the card I recieved when I "earned" the world crest in July '89, but it said something to the effect of "you are now entitled to wear the world crest, a symbol of the brotherhood of world scouting".

 

I'm a member of my council's International Committee and we have established four requirements for the IA badge, you must complete one of the four:

 

Participate as a member of a contingent in a Scouting activity outside the United States

 

Participate as a member of a unit (or as an individual) that hosts one or more Scouts or Scouters from another country during their visit to the United States

 

Participate in a camporee or other scheduled event in the United States in which Scouts or Scouters of another nation are involved

 

Serve as a counselor in the European Camp Staff program.

I earned the AAD in a classroom setting. Our Parish Priest (overseas militry base) allowed the Catholic scouts to attend an AAD course, which replaced our regular CCD class for the year. So for the year, there was about 10 Catholic Scouts who attended and earned our AAD at the end of the year. Our parish priest and two others sat on our BOR....and to tell you the truth, we learned a lot more in the AAD course than CCD...since we all really wanted to be there and CCD was always 'forced' on us!

 

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If it's anything like the 2003 Indian Summer, there will be lots of Pow-wow's, but I don't remember there being any ceremonial competitions. The classes were more geared to Native American history/crafts/ect.

 

Sorry to say, I'm not going this year, I'm signed up with my contingent's week at Summit Corps.

Good idea, thanks!

John, I totally understand....and I'm glad they have a program, our council even has a special week for them at the end of the summer.

 

My only concern is that if we don't get them BSA trained, they will have to drop the charter and lose access to our facilities, which could hurt their program. As long as youth are engaged I don't care if it's our progam, JROTC, 4-H, or FFA.

 

Does anyone know if the same training requirement exists for Exploring Posts? I know the two professionals assigned to my district wouldn't want that to happen, but if push comes to shove, switching them might solve the training problem.

I'm in one of the 20 pilot councils this year, but I think we're doing a decent job with training. IOLS really needs new staffers, the guys that have been doing it over the years have expressed that they need new blood, which I think is probably everywhere.

 

My district is small with approximately 60 units, and we have few people who step up to the plate. At district committee meetings we have a core group of about eight people who constantly show, and that's including the district commissioner and the two ADC's (myself included). This core group basically does most of the training as well....and I really don't know how we do it.

 

Even though CS training is online, we still have a training day where we meet up at a church with a bank of computers and have everyone sit down and do it (same thing with YPT). It helps that you have a trainer in the room who can answer questions and give personal experience. If you do it online by yourself, that's good too.

 

What we haven't figured out is Venturing....we 8 crews in our district and only one is a "traditional" crew, the rest are JROTC units at high schools. It's hard to get them to training when the only time you see them is at recharter and the JROTC week at summer camp. The other ADC works with them since he's retired from the military, but has a hard time making visits all the time since they meet during the day and he teaches college. The other thing, around here, Venturing training is offered at the council level, and although there are a few councils with in an hour drive or so, there aren't many opprotunities to take basic Venturing training.

 

One other thing....there a lot of trained leaders out there, whose myscouting accounts are linked to their registration numbers or whose training records are incomplete. I ran my training report a couple months ago and I had about 15 courses missing, including WB, NLS, and Trainers EDGE (which I had taken a month prior and the Council registrar was one of the three trainers that day). My wife needed her YPT for recharter this year and our DC couldn't find that she had done it, so I got the printout from the DC and tried to link my wife's registration number with her myscouting account, but I recieved an error message saying "That number is not valid your the council you have selected".

 

Yes, I agree, every youth deserves a trained leader....but until things like the myscouting accounts and training records get fixed, we'll be spinning our wheels. On another note, I think national has done a great job with UVTS 2.0....it's been really helpful for our Commissioners.

 

 

ScoutBox,

 

I feel your pain, although I was in a "small" district in TAC (the defunct Three Rivers District), we still had to drive an hour from Mannheim to K-town for a Chapter meeting or six hours to a Lodge event. But get your your boys to NYLT...I went to Golden Falcon back in 1990 when we had it at Pirmasens for the week. It was so much fun! One night we hiked up to the castle as a patrol and spent the night up there under the stars. The boys in your troop will have a great time and learn a lot.

 

I was one of the fortunate Arrowmen who where able to earn the "75th Anniversary Award" in 1990. I went through my ordeal in early spring and was able to finish before the year ended. I still wear it and I've only seen one other person with one (and I'm very careful not to lose it).

 

Here are the requirements, straight from "The Brotherhood of Cheerful Service: A History of the Order of the Arrow", which was a book that was published for the 75th Anniversary.

 

Youth Requirements: (Complete 3 of 5 requirements in each category)

 

I. Quest for Chapter and Lodge Development:

 

1. Attain Brotherhood membership or if Brotherhood, help another Arrowman through his attainment of Brotherhood.

 

2. Help conduct an Order of the Arrow election in a unit other than your own.

 

3. Serve on a chapter or lodge committee or as a chapter or lodge officer.

 

4. Serve as a member of a lodge ceremonial team or as an Elangomat.

 

5. Participate in a minimum of 3 of the following:

 

Lodge officer training

National Leadership Seminar

National Order of the Arrow Conference

Section Conclave

Lodge council camp service project

Ordeal/Brotherhood ceremony (other than your own)

National jamboree

BSA high adventure program

 

 

II. Quest for Scouting and Community Development:

 

1. Recruit two new boys or adult into Scouting.

 

2. Participate in council "Scout Show" or district camporee event.

 

3. Assist in a unit's camp promotion program (other than your own).

 

4. Be responsible for signing up tow Scouts for Summer Camp.

 

5. Participate in at least two chapter or lodge community service projects.

 

 

III. Quest for Personal Development:

 

1. Advance one Scout rank, or as an Explorer fulfill your responsibilities in your post.

 

2. Serve on a summer camp staff.

 

3. Promote the correct wearing of the uniform through personal example.

 

4. Deepen your spiritual commitment by earning the emblem of your religious faith.

 

5. Serve on the studen council or as a class officer in your school.

 

 

 

Adult Requirements: (Complete 3 of 5 requirements in each category)

 

I. Quest for Chapter and Lodge Development:

 

1. Attain Brotherhood membership or if Brotherhood, help another Arrowman through his attainment of Brotherhood.

 

2. Serve as a chapter or lodge adviser or committee adviser.

 

3. Participate in at least one of the major events of the lodge (fellowship, pow wow, Ordeal, ect.).

 

4. Provide transportation/leadership for youth to at least one Order of the Arrow unit election and/or camp promotion program (other than your own unit).

 

5. Encourage youth to participate by giving leadership to a minimum of four of the following:

 

Lodge officer training

National Leadership Seminar

National Order of the Arrow Conference

Section Conclave

Lodge council camp service project

Ordeal/Brotherhood ceremony (other than your own)

 

 

II. Quest for Scouting and Community Development:

 

1. Recruit two new boys or adult into Scouting.

 

2. Serve as a unit leader (SM, ASM, committeeman) or on a district or council committee.

 

3. Help organize a new scout unit.

 

4. Participate financially in your local council's "Friends of Scouting" program.

 

5. Participate in a community service organization. (Lions, Rotary, Kiwanis, Jaycees, Red Cross, Salvation Army, Boys' Club, etc.)

 

 

III. Quest for Personal Development:

 

1. Participate in or give leadership to an adult training session that you have not participated in before.

 

2. Serve as a campmaster for one weekend or as a summer camp commissioner.

 

3. Be responsible for your unit's participation in a council summer camp program and at least two weekend camping experiences in 1 year.

 

4. Participate in a training session for alcohol and drug abuse and/or child abuse program.

 

5. Serve on a community or church committee. (PTO, PTA, church council, civic club, political campaign, etc.)

 

 

 

For me the hardest part of the "Quest for Chapter and Lodge Development", especially since I was a brand new Aroowman in a tiny lodge, which was overseas. Luckily my father was an Arrowman as a youth and was more than happy to become involved in the Chapter and Lodge after I went through my Ordeal.(This message has been edited by eaglescout1996)

Thanks '72, I really appreciate it.

 

Although I like Atlanta, my wife and I are really missing Central Florida.

I attended WB in my previous Council (Central Florida)... Tokala, one of my Patrol Mates was from the West Coast that came over to attend the course. When I asked him, he said that your council didn't offer too many.

 

The only thing now is that I'm "shunned" from serving as staff at my new council since I went out of council. Oh well....I was asked if I wanted to serve as an ASM for NYLT this summer...but I'll be too busy doing stuff with the Lodge.(This message has been edited by eaglescout1996)

Currently our council conducts three Wood Badge Courses...spring, summer, and fall. All three are at or near capacity. It's part of our "training culture"...so the council likes to get all leaders an opprotuntiy to attend.

 

 

Like Stosh, mine showed up in the mail.

 

It wasn't a big deal for me, as I had a terrible WB experience. I did have a lot of fun working my ticket and the beads are a constant reminder of why I'm a Scouter.

 

sailingpj-

 

Try logging back into scoutstuff...I did it and it worked for me, the jamboree icon at the top popped back up there.

 

 

Having never been to a Jambo before this one, I was astonished at the trading....walking around on Tuesday morning and boys are already out there with blankets set up...and it only got worse as the week went on.

 

Like most of you here, I did most of my trading as a friendship guesture...1:1 with the other staff members I worked with or a for a patch I thought looked good. I even ran into a few Scouts from my wife's home town in Puerto Rico and just gave them a few of my Council's JSPs.

 

As for the Patch of the Day...everyone was complaining about supply's decision of limiting the numbers. There were a few staffers I worked with who were able to pull complete sets. Since we worked overnight, they got off work then went and stood in line at the trading post at 8am for the 9am opening. Actually one guy was able to pick me up the bus patch on the first day, but I told him to give it to someone else since I didn't want to waste my time staning in line for 10 days straight....but on the other hand, if I knew how profitable they would have been, I could have paid for my entire trip with just two sets!

 

Actually one guy put together a complete set and gave it to another staffer since that's the only thing he wanted from the entire Jambo. To be honest, they really weren't that appealing to me, the only one I really liked was the International Day Patch, but that's probably becasue I did most of my Scouting as a youth overseas.

 

As for the other Jambo merch, there really wasn't anything of quality...I only picked up a couple t-shirts, the fully embroidered Jambo patches, the laurel patches, and the Cobalt Blue Staff Mug. Although, by the end of the week, almost everything was sold, BSA could have slapped the Jambo logo on anything and it would have sold.

The only stuff that shows up for me are the trainings I've done online through MyScouting.org

 

Nothing else has shown up...WB, Commissioner Training, Cub Scout Training (I taught CS fundementals for 4 years), NLATS, ect. That means my last few Councils haven't been entering in my training, nor has Regional.

My assumption has been that someone has been given an award (Distinguished Eagle, Silver Buffalo, ect), sold it and because they have the award are able to obtain another one. Not saying that's where all of the "new" ones on eBay come from, but just a thought.

 

I have done the same, used eBay to fill out some collections of things I lost, but some of the prices out there are insane.

 

For instance, there's a Whitney M. Young award square knot for sale, quite a heafty sum. Maybe the award is not as prevelent in most councils, but in the Atlanta Area Council I believe yearly the number awarded about equals the number of Silver Beavers, so it almost seems like they're a dime a dozen. At out last District Commissioners meeting, 4 of the 7 present had been given the award.

 

This goes back to a thread in the OA section....it seems like eBay is fueling the gross amount of patches that are being created.

Thanks for the replies...I've seen one pro in my council with a green shirt on, I just assumed she worked with the Venturing Council or something.

 

Thanks for the info!