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    • Having been a COR and a CC, I want you to be both the resource person and a bit of appetite suppressant for the youth.  Help your SPL have options for camping weekends. At the same time, help SPL understand limits, before the planning meeting...it fails common sense to drive 150 miles on a Friday night in Michigan in November.  Finally, BSA has its annual program monthly themes. I’ve linked the program planning guide from the WD Boyce Council, which has them for Cubs (think den chiefs) and Scouts... http://www.wdboyce.org/document/program-guide/181492
    • I've always felt that this is where experienced leadership shines.  Those folks don't look at the latest marketing from national to guide their program.  They look at the source materials, understand how it works, and then implement a solid program.  When new folks show up, those experienced hands are there to provide some guidance.  Ideas like Family Scouting provide some new ideas sure - but in those units will never harm the program because those experienced leaders know what needs to get done. I've read enough topics on this forum where packs or troops are facing problems.  Many of those problems seem to come result from a lack of leadership from experienced Scouters.  It's really a shame too - that's the true value-add of the chartered organization model in the BSA.
    • First, i did my first fifty miler in the San Fernando Valley Council when I was 12. It was called the Silver Knapsack Trail. i repeated it when I was 13.  When I was 14, I did a 60 mile segment of the John Muir (Pacific Crest) Trail. Yes, Dad did the trail with me. He was deep in books studying for his undergrad degree after retiring from tha Army when my brother was a Scout, so he wanted the chance.  BTW, I’m 62 now. Second, before you bash the programs for youth of attendees at Philmont Training Center, maybe you ought to read their website or discuss with someone what they are about. If you’re interested in the weeklong Trek for PTC youth, message me. My boy did it.   
    • That too is my concern.  The inevitable slide.  So you are camped out in a back country site.  Your crew of 16 - 17 year olds, say day 7 or 8.  There is a crew of Mustangs in the next camp.  Maybe it's their only night out, so they are more boisterous.  Also it can lessen the feeling of being out and away. At the surface, seems benign, it would not take much to have a less than favorable impact.   Maybe there are ways to promote outdoors and not be out in the crown jewel of Boy Scouts backcountry. Hey...there's always Summit and they desperately need folks to go there.  Make it Family Scouting paradise and leave the rest of us alone.  Not sure how many families you need attending to pay down an over $125 million balloon bond payment....
    • The troop leader guidebook, vol 2, p 60, says this.   
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