Peregrinator 85 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 132 boys / 9 patrols = 14 boys per patrol? You could easily have 16 patrols with a troop of that size! Link to post Share on other sites
OldGreyEagle 5 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Thank you Pack, I think,... I would just think we should congratulate this fine scoutmaster for the time and energy he gives to the youth and respect his ability to present the program as he sees fit. Is that not what we all seek? Link to post Share on other sites
packsaddle 753 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 You're welcome and I did mean it. While we haven't always agreed on some things I've always had great admiration for you and known that, as with your post above, we agree on a lot more. Link to post Share on other sites
Tampa Turtle 1011 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Yeah I'd just congratulate the man and keep reservations to myself. Seems the more I learn about scouting the less I know. Sometimes seeing other units you pick up a few good ideas; other times you see things you didn't and confirms the direction you are going in. Link to post Share on other sites
OneHour 11 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 OGE, how could I have forgotten OGE! My apologies OldGreatEagle! In our area, sports, band, and other extra curricular activities rule (over) scouting. 13-14 size seems to be the good size for our patrols. On the campout, it normalizes to 8-9 boys due to compete events. Before, when we held it to 6-7 scouts patrol, we ended up combining patrol to make one complete patrol. The patrols tend to lose their identity. Nowaday, our 9 patrols (7 permanent, 2 new scout patrols) stay intact during campouts. Btw, the scouts in the new scout patrol choose one of the 7 permanent patrols to go into after their 1st year and the 2 new scout patrols are recycled for the next group of webelos in March. At the end of the day, OGE and Pack are correct. As long as he delivers the program, who is to fault him? If BSA wants it a particular way, then each troop should have a paid professional who will run it the way that BSA has in mind, including keeping the unit small. 1Hour Link to post Share on other sites
Taunkacoo 10 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Important to note that although the SM was proud of the accomplishments, he was not the counselor for all 65 MBs. Link to post Share on other sites
Basementdweller 608 Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 I would have a real problem 8 new scouts who spent entire mornings in the first year program earning 7 merit badges a piece in the afternoon....so that was less than 3 hours a piece. I wouldn't permit it.... Integrity in the program is what I am talking about. Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle732 27 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 "Important to note that although the SM was proud of the accomplishments, he was not the counselor for all 65 MBs." No but the SM has overall responsibility for the quality of advancement in his unit. If merit badges are being given away (not earned) then the SM needs to stop it. Maybe he can't take away the 65 MBs already earned but he can look into other camps that offer meaningful MB instruction. Link to post Share on other sites
Basementdweller 608 Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 On my evaluation from our resident camp.....I gave kudos to a number of staff......I also called out a couple of councilors for give me's on merit badges, A boy said he had a turtle when he was 6 and the councilor said that was ok for the amphibian and reptile merit badge. Really????? Basketry merit badge....don't get me started on that...... ...... I spoke with the CD and PD about my concerns and they said it would be addressed..... Link to post Share on other sites
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