RememberSchiff 3683 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Fewer scouts today so councils merge for well you know the script. Seems mostly okay, then a NEW council headquarters building is needed. MUCH LARGER than the two HQ's it is replacing which served more scouts back when. I mean if we need MORE ROOM to serve fewer scouts, can't we just use the scOUTing DOORS? MORE MODERN - Internet? Indoor plumbing? Is Scouting now about Modern? MORE EXPENSIVE. I don't want to spend a dime on a new Council HQ while a camp is in need of maintenance or program upgrades. How many $million dream HQs were built and then sold (Maine comes to mind) NEW and Council owned, we are hiring an architect! Thrifty? Plenty of empty strip mall space. Here is what got me going ST. Louis Council to build a new 25,000 sq ft council HQ. https://www.connectcre.com/stories/boy-scouts-of-greater-st-louis-to-sell-hq-looking-for-new-location/ My $0.02, 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
InquisitiveScouter 1656 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 29 minutes ago, RememberSchiff said: Fewer scouts today so councils merge for well you know the script. Seems mostly okay, then a NEW council headquarters building is needed. MUCH LARGER than the two HQ's it is replacing which served more scouts back when. I mean if we need MORE ROOM to serve fewer scouts, can't we just use the scOUTing DOORS? MORE MODERN - Internet? Indoor plumbing? Is Scouting now about Modern? MORE EXPENSIVE. I don't want to spend a dime on a new Council HQ while a camp is in need of maintenance or program upgrades. How many $million dream HQs were built and then sold (Maine comes to mind) NEW and Council owned, we are hiring an architect! Thrifty? Plenty of empty strip mall space. Here is what got me going ST. Louis Council to build a new 25,000 sq ft council HQ. https://www.connectcre.com/stories/boy-scouts-of-greater-st-louis-to-sell-hq-looking-for-new-location/ My $0.02, Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3683 Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 (edited) 8 hours ago, RememberSchiff said: MORE EXPENSIVE. I don't want to spend a dime on a new Council HQ while a camp is in need of maintenance or program upgrades. How many $million dream HQs were built and then sold (Maine comes to mind) 2004: "Boy Scouts, Banknorth officials, Cianbro and other members of the business community broke ground Monday (July 19) on the new 21,000-square-foot Scout Center, the cornerstone of the Pine Tree Council’s $4 million capital campaign. ... When completed in 2005 the facility will include: a library, a tribute room, a visitor's center, a training room, a scout shop, an audio visual center, resources areas for each of the 10 districts of the Pine Tree Council as well as a lookout so that scouts can watch planes take off and land. (Modern I guess ~RS) The Pine Tree Council serves more than 18,000 youths through its Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, Venturing, Learning for Life and Exploring programs in Central and Southern Maine..." Source: http://www.wolfenews.com/releases/Pine-Tree-Council-of-Boy-Scouts-of-America-Breaks-Ground-on-21000-square-foot-Scout-Center-in-Portland/01071/ 2016: "In 2005 they (Pine Tree Council) relocated their service center to Western Avenue in South Portland. However, the much larger facility was costing them $133,758 per year. Recently, they sold the building to a group of doctors (Also, former scouts!). This year Scout Executive, Eric Tarbox is happy to announce that they have a balanced budget." Source: https://www.scarboroughrotary.org/stories/pine-tree-council-ceo Today: Pine Tree Council HQ, aka Service Center, is located at Camp William Hinds. Edited March 6 by RememberSchiff 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HashTagScouts 437 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I was in Minneapolis a few months ago. Huge "office" there. I think they even had an indoor rock climbing facility. Hinds is appropriate for PTC. Took Daniel Webster a while to realize Camp Carpenter was appropriate for their HQ as well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3683 Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 15 hours ago, HashTagScouts said: I was in Minneapolis a few months ago. Huge "office" there. I think they even had an indoor rock climbing facility. Hinds is appropriate for PTC. Took Daniel Webster a while to realize Camp Carpenter was appropriate for their HQ as well. Thanks you made my point better than I. “Northern Star Council, Boy Scouts of America's headquarters is at our Base Camp … an urban camp facility located right in the Twin Cities, near historic Fort Snelling. We offer indoor and outdoor programs year-round for every type of youth and adult groups! Base Camp is available for any type of youth group. We have program combinations that use some, or all, of our Base Camp activities including rock climbing, archery, high ropes course, space shuttle simulator, robotics, and biking! We also offer lock-in programs, birthday parties, and special events for groups. It’s a HQ, it’s a Camp. It’s open to Scouts. It’s open to the community. It’s the future of Council HQ’s? It’s financially self-sustaining? Sources: https://www.explorebasecamp.org/Youth-and-Adult-Programs https://www.northernstar.org/about-us 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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