RememberSchiff 3688 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 After reading story below, I will be more mindful of signal bar strength as I hike. I dunno maybe there is a hiking app that also tracks phone signal strength waypoints? As there was no phone reception, Eric, 58, was worried about the threat to his wife of hypothermia. He helped her into a survival bag to keep warm, then headed back (left his wife!!!) to where he last remembered getting a signal. “I thought this was a bit over the top but I got in,” said Margaret. “But it’s surprising how cold you can get.” https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mans-scout-training-saves-wife-27505340 Link to post Share on other sites
yknot 1338 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 4 hours ago, RememberSchiff said: After reading story below, I will be more mindful of signal bar strength as I hike. I dunno maybe there is a hiking app that also tracks phone signal strength waypoints? As there was no phone reception, Eric, 58, was worried about the threat to his wife of hypothermia. He helped her into a survival bag to keep warm, then headed back (left his wife!!!) to where he last remembered getting a signal. “I thought this was a bit over the top but I got in,” said Margaret. “But it’s surprising how cold you can get.” https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mans-scout-training-saves-wife-27505340 There are some apps that track this. I just started looking into it myself so I can't recommend one yet but I am looking for one that gives an audible signal, not just something I have to keep looking at on my phone. Merlin is enough of a distraction. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MattR 2667 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 We rarely have cell service in the mountains. If you have service you're either on a peak or, possibly, at a trailhead. I'm glad they figured it out. Also glad the other hikers came by. A GPS that can mark a point seems like a useful idea. Does all trails allow you to mark a point? Also there are GPSes with emergency satellite communications. We rent them when we go rafting because the canyons are not only far from signals but far from people. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
InquisitiveScouter 1656 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, MattR said: We rarely have cell service in the mountains. If you have service you're either on a peak or, possibly, at a trailhead. I'm glad they figured it out. Also glad the other hikers came by. A GPS that can mark a point seems like a useful idea. Does all trails allow you to mark a point? Also there are GPSes with emergency satellite communications. We rent them when we go rafting because the canyons are not only far from signals but far from people. If you go into the wilderness... (I now define "wilderness" as no cell signal, LOL), consider purchasing one for your crew. At around $400, they are getting more affordable. Recommended reading for your edification: https://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/emergency-406-beacons/ One example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PPJGFKK Register your device, if you get one!! Edited August 13, 2023 by InquisitiveScouter 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3688 Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 Wilderness connectivity, sea connectivity, and everywhere else ...I have been waiting and waiting for the 5G Tesla Pi phone, the collaborative project among Tesla, Starlink, and T-Mobile. Thinking Pi in the sky, but more likely buy a JitterBug for the old scouters home. But for now, I will mind my signal strength. Link to post Share on other sites
InquisitiveScouter 1656 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 In case you did not know... A text message requires much less signal connectivity (strength and duration) than a call, or to load up some data. Some 911 call centers accept text messages. Your mileage WILL vary 😜 The Federal Communications Commission REQUIRES all carriers to notify you with a "bounce back" message if your text to 911 does not go through. https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/what-you-need-know-about-text-911 If it does not go through to 911, next try sending a text to your designated support person back home. (Yes, you need to recruit someone to fill this role as part of your trek plan. Usually a spouse or loved one who will contact authorities if you need assistance or are overdue.) Finally, in your trek planning, one of the questions you can ask the Search and Rescue agency responsible for your location (yes, you should know who that is, too!) if they accept texts. Happy trekking! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3688 Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 Good point. In my experience, "bounce-back" or failed to deliver messages are only displayed in opened Message app, i.e., it is not elevated to app bubble* notification or phone notification? IMO, Message App Icon should have a red failure bubble for failed sends. Link to post Share on other sites
InquisitiveScouter 1656 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, RememberSchiff said: Good point. In my experience, "bounce-back" or failed to deliver messages are only displayed in opened Message app, i.e., it is not elevated to app bubble* notification or phone notification? IMO, Message App Icon should have a red failure bubble for failed sends. Sorry, I cannot answer that, as I have never had occasion to see a 911 bounce back message. So, I do not know if it is the same as other message delivery fails... Might vary by carrier and phone type as well (Android vs I-phone, etc.) Edited August 15, 2023 by InquisitiveScouter Link to post Share on other sites
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