cubbobwhite

Now start planning the next one! Make sure you let them know you can't promise them weather like the past one, but you will still promise a good time

Si Quaeris Peninsulam Amoenam Circumspice"

"If you seek a pleasant peninsula, look about you."

Of course, there are those of us in Michigan who believe it really means - "If you seek a pleasant penisula, stay out of Ohio"

Thanks! I plan to. Notice I've jumped into a few discussions already

When it comes to Webelos Den camping, the rules are different than those for Pack campouts. Your BALOO trained person is quoting rules for Pack campouts, not Webelos Den campouts.

The G2S2 says that each Webelos Scout needs to have an adult taking responsibility for him during the campout. http://www.scouting.org/pubs/gss/gss03.html#aa Under this rule - two adults could accompany the den and still be in compliance. (I don't recommend that)

As the the tent sharing thing - http://www.scouting.org/pubs/gss/gss01.html#c Check out #7. Let this be the time for the boys to experience camping in tents with the dads in the tents nearby.

In troops where singing for lost items is the norm, are the Scouters also expected to sing when they lose something, or just the Scouts?

"I wrote the original question and it was the first time I used the forum, so I was a bit worried about responses. The singing for forgotten items has been going on for some time in our troop, but an incident which was the "last staw" for me was when a 13 year old scout forgot his scout uniform on a camping weekend which was with the troop only. The troop policy is to not take him. The SM was not there, so the Asst Scout Master didn't have it in his heart to call his mother to come get him. The SM did arrive at the campsite later that evening. The next day, in order to make a point of the scout forgetting his uniform, he made him were his (the Scout Master's) size 3X Large scout shirt for pictures. Of course, all the other scouts were laughing. After the trip when the SM asked the Asst. Scout master to send him the picture to show it around, the Asst. would not. Just wanted your thoughts on this."

This is not hazing - this is abuse. I would report it to your SE immediately.

http://www.cubbobwhite.net Resources for Cub leaders to use in their den and pack meetings.

I'll give you an idea of what my favorite DE does during the day. He gets up early and goes to the office before 8am. He attempts to get as much done as possible before the phone begins to ring at 9. Even if he leaves the office he can't escape the phone because he has a cell phone.

Throughout the day he is fielding questions from volunteers, who range from brand-new den leaders to the District Commissioner. He meets with community leaders to make sure that Scouting is highly thought of, he writes grant requests, he works closely with the United Way. As the professional advisor to the OA Lodge, he is working to straighten out the mess left by the recently departed volunteer advisor. He helps recruit a den leader for a pack that has Wolves but no leader. If he is lucky, he gets to come home for dinner, but that only happens about twice a week.

He is frequently found working on Saturdays and Sundays, in addition to the other five days of the week. When he last figured out his hourly wage, it was just above minimum wage. But he does this job because he likes it.

BTW, my favorite DE also spends much of his day doing some of the same things that other fathers do. He is worrying about one of his sons who is in Iraq. He worries about his wife with MS. I guess that makes him a real person just like the rest of us - just trying to do a real job.

Good evening! I'm new to this forum but not new to Scouting. I've been Cubbing for 19 years. I am currently the District Training Chairman in my Council. I am also the webmaster of CubBobwhite's Pow Wow Online - http://www.cubbobwhite.net

I am Wood Badge trained - EC-CS-19 - Cub Scout Trainer Wood Badge where I was a Bobwhite I also completed C-33-98 - Boy Scout Wood Badge, where I was a Buffalo. I like being a Bobwhite much more than a Buffalo.

As has already been stated - Tiger Cub dens have only a den leader, no assistant. They are to be using shared leadership with the Tiger Cub partners. That is the way the Tiger Cub den is run.

It sounds like the pack you have joined is doing their own "thing" rather than following the Cub Scouting program.

I think I would do as some of the others have suggested - step back and do this year as just a Tiger Cub partner. I would do this just to see if this is the pack for you and your son. There are other packs out there. Don't be afraid to check them out.

I would recommend separating the two and having the Webelos Scouts crossover in March.

I have attended many B&G's over the years and I have found them to usually be long, drawn out affairs. By the time the crossover happened nobody cared anymore and were more interested in getting home. By putting it off until the next month it allows the focus of the Pack meeting to be on the graduating Webelos Scouts.