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  1. OGE: Does the BSA ban on homosexuals extend to scouts or to just leaders? Alas, I don't have a straight answer for you, but just another opinion. I would hate to hear that it does extend to scouts. As some previously pointed out, being morally straight doesn't necessarily mean that one is free from all immoral actions/thoughts, but that the individual recognizes what they are doing/have done is wrong & struggles to make right. Even with this realization, can a leader with good conscience remove a boy from scouting because he impulsively lies? He thinks of these lies as
  2. P_Swigs, I was slightly offended at your second post on this thread, "Come on, people - lets not...". I chose not to reply because I respect the fact that you have your opinion and I have mine. I must object though to your latest post in response to Dedicated Dad. I may or may not agree with him, but there is no reason to demean him with that rant. Contrary to your post, this is precicely the place to have this discussion. --- Issues & Politics In answer to many requests, we established a separate forum for these topics. Those not interested can skip this forum instead of spend
  3. OGE said: --- To (insert group here), the (insert activity here) is a perversion... I think the term perversion is a judgement applied by an Observer about a situation/action that Observer cant personally comprehend. --- The way I understand what he is saying is, "What gives any one of us the right to judge that what someone does is morally straight or not?" Dedicated Dad said: --- If morality only exists "in the heart" or with your brief history of moral relativism, i.e. morality is individual and independent of others, then nothing can be truly moral or immoral.
  4. Just a personal opinion here, but my thought is no. The leadership positions in scouting I always thought were voluntary. The extra money gained in your recent fund raisers should be used exclusively for improving the boys' experience, be that, buying nice tents, upgrading an overnighter at a local campground to a nicer campground farther away, or just add some of it back into the boys' scouting account. Let them pay part of their summer camp fees, buy things at the camp store, replace a worn out uniform shirt, etc. I'm sure if you talked to the boys and their parents, they'd be pretty
  5. Pretty cool, I like the background. Someone mentioned creating a site for your cubs. My step-son just started as a Wolf this year & as part of my contribution to the pack, I created & now maintain a web site for them here on scouter.com. It's nowhere near as fancy as this one, but if you care to take a look, http://packs.scouter.com/in/pack3313 Later
  6. still getting the same message
  7. The connection was refused when attempting to contact 63.173.123.213.
  8. I find myself in disagreement with most of the posts on this thread. I do agree regarding the two unmarried leaders sleeping in the same tent. They should be given the choice, Follow the scouting guidelines or Choose not to attend the events where this issue arrises. I do not agree regarding the leader who is living unwed with his partner if he keeps the situation private. It sounds like he may not be though since one of the scouts knows about it. The reason I feel this way is because none of us are perfect models of morality. I personally measure morality by what is in the Bible. In
  9. Had a thought while reading these posts. Those of us whose packs/troops have web sites could put a link to the forums. That may attract more participation & other viewpoints. Jeremy
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