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  1. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! What a wonderful group. What a demonstration of the scout spirit.. total strangers took the time to read my problem and all of you have gone out of your way to provide answers to questions that my son should have be able to get from his troop leaders. Amazing...you guys are amazing!!!! My son called his Eagle advisor to ask about getting the application and was told to "find it on the internet" after my son told him that the site was down the Eagle advisor said ..."well....I don't know what to tell ya, just keep looking". You all are helping to rest
  2. Would it be appropriate to identify the BSA council and district unit that my son is in. But not the actual Troop. Perhaps someone who is close by could help us on a more local level?(This message has been edited by mdsummer45)
  3. At this point my son has not completed his Eagle Rank Application. Should he just download one from the internet? Should my son just fill it out and at the end of the troop committee mtg ask for signatures (no matter the out come)? The Troop Eagle Advisor requested a list of name from my son and yes that person's name is on the list of references. The advisor told my son that he would mail out the necessary forms for the reference people to complete. So I guess my son is suppose to trust that the eagle advisor will send out those forms.
  4. My son has a question he would like me to put out there: He was talking with his High School counselor today(as I mentioned earlier my son does a lot of computer work for the school) and was telling him about everything that is going on in his scouting life. My son was just asking for suggestions on how best to approach things at the troop committee meeting when his counselor said " Would it be possible for me to attend the meeting and speak on your behalf?"(my son said he never asked him to attend the counselor just up and volunteered) The counselor wants to attend the mtg or at the
  5. Thank you again for all of your comments, advice, guidance and support. My son just told me the SM emailed him and told my son that he would give my son a copy of the letter at the troop committee meeting because he was traveling all week. I said...WHAT!!!!! no way... you need to have that letter before you step one foot into that mtg. My son just sent off this email: Mr SM Thank you for your email today. I did not realize that when you said in your email that you were traveling today (Tuesday) that you meant that you were travel all week. My mistake. Thank you for talking with m
  6. Thank you LisaBob...I hope someone can answer the question Lisabob has just posted...if the troop committee refuses to sign off on scout spirit ..does my son have any recourse regarding the appeals process? I can see them telling my son that it will be impossible for my son to rectify the situation given the short time frame.
  7. John in KC The CC and the SM are of one mind, they do have each others back. I think this special committee meeting will be for show and I have prepared my son for a negative outcome. He wants to see this to the end.
  8. After rereading these posts and trying to remember exactly what was said in the letter... ...I think the SM in some way has giving my son a SM conference(it just has to happen as some one say its not a pass/fail thing) perhaps the sticking point is that in our troop the SM is also the person who decides whether or not the scout has meet the requirement of...'demonstrates scout spirit by living the scout oath and scout law in your everyday life'... the more I think about it the more I think that is the issue...Mr SM does not feel my son has meet this requirement (I do not think he gave my so
  9. My son is in 4 honor society in high school and the vice president of 2 of them. He has participated in a sport since 10th grade. In addition to the 4 honor societies he is a member of other school clubs and participates in many competitions. He is ranked in the top 7% of his class. He has been accepted into all of the colleges he applied to and has received merit scholarships to all of them(we are lucky) he was also selected as a finalist in 2 very selective scholarship program at one of the colleges(we are still waiting to hear). He is planning to study Computer Engineering in college and
  10. Okay Folks I just got off the phone with the Service Area Field Director. He was very helpful and asked me to explain the situation. He asked for my Units # and when I gave it to him he said...Oh, that's Mr SM I know him...when I told him that the letter the SM gave my son contained the phrase "please do not have your parents contact me" Mr FD stated ..that there are may parents who make the eagle project about them and not about the boy. So that is what he thought Mr SM was referring to(it's my sons project and not his parents) I told him that the letter had nothing to do with my
  11. Thanks to all of you for your wonderful advice. Just a note: My son emailed his SM Monday night requesting a copy of the original letter that the SM gave him (Bad Mom threw away my sons copy--never dreamed that things would have escalated to this point ). The SM responded Tuesday am stating that "I am traveling today and do not have access to my office computer. I will try to send on my return." Tuesday night my son receives this email from the SM "Interested in the request. Have you lost the original?". Within 3 minutes my son responded to that email--Mr SM...."I had given the original c
  12. My son just composed an email to send to his SM. I am too close to this to be objective. How does this sound to you..... *************************************************************** Mr SM Thank you for talking with me Monday night regarding scheduling an eagle scout master conference with you. It is my understanding that at this time you continue to feel that you can not sign off on the following Eagle Scout Rank Requirements for me: #2 Demonstrate Scout spirit by living the Scout Oath (Promise) and Scout Law in your everyday life #6 Take pa
  13. John in KC clarification please...."CC"=?
  14. After looking on the district website it appears that our district does not have a DE. They list District Chairman, District Commissioner, District Director (who I have called and left a message for him to call me) and Advancement Chairman.(there are other but those are the one listed at the top of this list so I guess they are the biggies). They all have email address (except for one) should I call them all or send out one email to all of them explain the situation? I do not want to appear stupid...but ...I just do not know the appropriate course of action...I am in uncharted water. One more
  15. I'm sorry but I am not sure what some of the abbreviations stand for... DE? And I am quickly learning the "chain of command". As I posted earlier (I think) this SM holds 3 district positions beside his role as SM so all of this people may be his "buddies".
  16. It appears that our SM is the only one who can sign off on the requirement: demonstrates scout spirit........scout law in your everyday life. So the SM is also refusing to sign off on this requirement. Don't know if I ever mentioned that..how can one person be judge and jury??? Maybe that's why the SM said to ask for a special troop committee mtg. I'm so confused ..is this the SM trying to save face by pushing it off on another group of people?
  17. Neither my husband nor myself are part of the "inner circle" of this troop. When my son first bridged over to scouts the troop would not allow any new scout parents to go on any outings, so the 2nd yr my husband went on 2 trips and after the 2nd trip he informed me that he would never go on another trip with this group of men. He said that he was made to feel less than welcome. These men are a tight group who live and breath scouts and unless you are will to devote 100% of your free time to scouts they are not interested(my son is the only one in his age group who does not have a father as a
  18. Rick our troops eagle adviser (who is not the SM--in our troop the SM does not approve the eagle project although he does sit on the committee the SM does not have a vote as to approving or not approving the project ) signed off on the approval on both the advisor line and then put the initials of the council/district advancement committee member on that line followed by the advisors initials. I guess this troop has been told they can do that.
  19. Thanks all..this HAS been going on since Nov '08. Both my son and I felt that the SM was just giving my son "the talk" ...trying to scare him....the troop has a history of holding on the the scout until close to the 18th bd so that the older boys still attend the meeting. Once any boy gets Eagle they are gone. So since my son had ~6mos until he turned 18 he felt that riding it out and waiting until late March to ask for the SM was appropriate. That is why my son was stunned when the SM told him he had not changed his mind. The SM is accusing my son of not making any attempts to contact him t
  20. My son needs your help(and I guess as him mom I need your help too). My son will be 18 in approx. 7.5 wks. He has completed his Eagle project(10/08 and signed off by troop 2/09) he has completed all of his merit badges. He is now ready to have his SM conference and herein lies the problem...the SM gave him a letter (late Oct '08....after my son had completed his eagle project) stating that he(SM) did not feel that he(SM) could give my son the SM conference . No actual reason were given the letter stated that it was the SM 'perception' that my son was not eagle material. My son is not perfec
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