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  • Micro-managing CC

    Is it wrong to count the days until the CC moves on with his son? He can't answer a simple question in an email without paragraphs, usually quoting or regurgitating something from National or Council. His wife is just as bad, their Cub is hated by most of the kids in the Pack. The older ones don't like him, and he bullies the younger ones. More than parent has told their children to avoid him, and he pushes them to punch him in the nose. When caught doing wrong it is always someone else's fault. I won't even get into the issues with their older child who shows up at Pack meeting and acts completely inappropriate. People have told me they will get more involved with the Pack once this family is gone.

  • #2
    The lad who is fighting needs progressive discipline. Counciled with mom and dad, then suspended is the behavior continues. It is your responsibility to do so.

    your unit is currently violating youth protection. See the below link and look under youth behavior guidelines. Your not doing the unit he ends up with any favors.

    http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/...GSS/gss01.aspx

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    • Basementdweller
      Basementdweller commented
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      If your having complaints something is happening.

    • qwazse
      qwazse commented
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      Just wondering what makes you think involvement on the district level has anything to do with having an unruly child?

      Either they want their kid to behave because thuggery is unbecoming, or your most important cause (the well-being of everyone's youth) is lost.

      I hate when parents, on account of being abrasive and sometimes manipulative, ruin scouting for the boys. I've seen good boys want to hide their heads on account of their parents' behavior.
      But, when a boy ruins scouting for himself, I'm not all that upset. Sometimes being told he's not welcome until we know he'll respect his fellow scouts is the best way to help a boy.

    • gsdad
      gsdad commented
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      The CC did not have much of a Scouting experience as a kid and is trying to relive it. The son thinks he can do no wrong because his dad is CC. To a degree the dad has allowed the behavior. He is now aware others have noticed and promised that will change. Only time will tell.

  • #3
    Not sure what being CC has anything to do with this. If his kids were gems, would you be able to put up with the mile long E-mails? Some people are verbose, and everyone just endures it if those folks are still great servant leaders.

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    • #4
      No, I wouldn't. His kids add to the aggravation. Every email contains passive aggressive "suggestions" on how things should be done. The other leaders are growing increasingly tired of it, and have been pulling back because of it. I have a strong threshold of BS and can grin and bear it, and speak my mind without getting personal and emotional.

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      • gsdad
        gsdad commented
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        I am the CM, and now that it was brought to my attention I want to nip it in the bud. I spoke with the Scout and his dad, time will tell. I truly think nobody addressed it because they were intimidated by the CC's need to control all things. The ACM and myself are on the same page.

      • Basementdweller
        Basementdweller commented
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        you mention passive aggressive emails.


        So are his suggestion in line with the way the book says things should be run?

      • gsdad
        gsdad commented
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        Yes and no, some are how he thinks it should be done. He quotes the rules when convenient.

    • #5
      The PC program that has been operating for the past several years has been to build self-esteem in our youth. To a certain degree this may be helpful, but we as a whole have gone way overboard with it. I find that bullies never lack self-esteem, but seldom do I seen them possessing even one ounce of self-respect.

      Stosh

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      • Twocubdad
        Twocubdad commented
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        Self esteem is over rated. Real character is in the other people and values you hold in high esteem.

      • jblake47
        jblake47 commented
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        Self esteem is based on what other people say is valuable about you.

        Self respect is based on what you know is valuable about yourself.

        Adults have been PC lying to kids for years and even they will be the first to know how bogus that is. Hey, mom, look at this terrific trophy I got for just showing up!

        Yeah, right. Kids are a lot more savvy than what we give them credit for. Let me guess... most of those trophies don't even make it home, let alone on some shelf in the kid's bedroom.

        Stosh
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