sevie11 10 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 There is no room for the arrowhead award on the new uniform. After the council patch and then troop numbers, then unit commissioner patch then trained patch where does the arrowhead award fit on the left sleeve ??? Link to post Share on other sites
nolesrule 58 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Why would you have troop numbers on a Unit Commissioner uniform? It's a district position. The Arrowhead Honor patch goes in the same spot as the unit numbers go on the centennial uniform. Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle92 110 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 While the Insignia Guide found below has not been updated http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Media/InsigniaGuide/10.aspx You'll note that the arrowhead award is shown on that section covering Non-unit Scouters, which commissioners are. So to parphase an old TV quote, " No Numbers for You!" LOL Also this site shows the 2008 Fall/Winter The Commissioner newsletter. page 7 is where the new guidelines, i.e. Arrowhead Honor is worn between the CSP and the Smokes pocket http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/14-975_08_FallWinter.pdf Hope it helps. Link to post Share on other sites
Buffalo Skipper 13 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The Arrowhead Honor is different from other adult scouting awards. Unlike training awards, keys or other knots which are worn with any or all uniforms, the Arrowhead Honor is only worn on a commissioner's uniform. Not on a boy scout uniform (SM, ASM, MC or CC), nor any other uniform other than that representing a commissioner. And the others here have it exactly right: unit numbers are not worn with Unit Commissioner, Roundtable Commissioner, Assistant/District Commissioner or Council Commissioner insignia, as these are all district/council level positions. Link to post Share on other sites
emb021 16 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 While the on-line Insignia Guide has not been updated, the in print one has been. Also, the on-line Commissioner's Newsletter gives the info on the latest issue. On the "ODL" uniform, the arrowhead is worn below the trained strip, which is itself below the office patch. On the new "centennial" uniform, the arrowhead is worn below the CSP. As noted, commissioners DON'T wear unit numbers, so that's not a problem. Link to post Share on other sites
nolesrule 58 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Heck, on my ODL uniform there wouldn't have been enough room for both (yeah, my sleeves were that short, but then so am I). Link to post Share on other sites
Apache Bob 10 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Nolesrule - you need to get a long sleeve shirt. Link to post Share on other sites
nolesrule 58 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Not a chance. I live in Florida. Link to post Share on other sites
Buffalo Skipper 13 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Like nolesrule, I am also in Florida, though the other end of the state. I cannot recall, in my day-to-day scouting, having EVER seen a scout or leader wearing a long sleeve shirt. I think they may be one of those "scouting myths" we are talking about in another topic. Link to post Share on other sites
emb021 16 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I also live in Florida. I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen a scout or scouter in a long sleeve shirt. I've actually seen more long sleeve shirts of the new 'centennial' style then the prior ones. As to room for the arrowhead. Unless you have an oversized CSP, I've not seen a short-sleeved scouter shirt that didn't have room for the CSP, office patch, trained strip, and arrowhead. At a minimum, you could move the office patch up a little. Link to post Share on other sites
eghiglie 10 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I've not yet seen a commish wear unit numbers Link to post Share on other sites
nolesrule 58 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 On my ODL sleeve (ca. 1992 issue), the arrowhead spilled onto the sleeve cuff. I had the CSP, UC, Trained strip and arrowhead all touching. The only CSP I wear is the regular one, and you Florida guys have probably seen the WCFC CSP. It's a standard size. Link to post Share on other sites
emb021 16 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 "I've not yet seen a commish wear unit numbers" On occasion, I see commissioners, and district & council volunteers who still wear their unit numbers. Link to post Share on other sites
hendrickms24 20 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 "I've not yet seen a commish wear unit numbers" "On occasion, I see commissioners, and district & council volunteers who still wear their unit numbers." In Scouting I think I see the exceptions to the rule more then the rule when dealing with the uniform. Link to post Share on other sites
eghiglie 10 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 hendrickms24 Good point Link to post Share on other sites
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