Muttsy

Check out this Local Council contribution calculator. I think the TCC produced it but is on this law firm's web site. 

https://boyscoutssexualabuse.com/local-council-analysis/

The Dashboards destroy the Plan proponents’ baseless arguments that the LC’s are making “substantial contributions” in exchange for complete releases. The Coalition cut this deal with the devil without an iota of diligence. No way the Proponents can put lipstick on that pig. I’d call this only one of a dozen fatal wounds to the Plan. 

Mods, I’m mad. You killed the brightest star in this forum’s constellation. I don’t care what you have to do. Groveling is a start. Get him back. Or maybe it was your intention all along to snuff out his voice. 
No disrespect to the other posters but I think I speak for everyone. 
 

This time is critical and desperately needs high altitude analysis. 

Kosnoff’s twitter feed @sexabuseattys

“Character is everything.” Martin Luther King. 

 Coalition lead negotiator Ken Rothweiler more evidence of his dangerously poor judgment and dishonesty. His grandiosity cost this man a life. https://t.co/I52g9ea3dK

The arythmetic doesn’t work, does it?

24 minutes ago, RememberSchiff said:

 

I become concerned when a party states do not use the ballot provided  rather download our app and use that to vote.  Was this Coalition app court approved?

 

I was just about to pose the same question. We need  Cynical back in the saddle. 

1 hour ago, Muttsy said:

 

More of THE KEN SHOW starring KEN and featuring the SHYSTERETTES

 

I think this must be one of those deep fakes I hear about. No honest lawyer would actually say these falsehoods and fear monger to enrich himself at the expense of men who were violently raped as boys, right?

More of THE KEN SHOW starring KEN and featuring the SHYSTERETTES!

The Hartford piece is about half of what Century Chubb will need to pay if there is to be congruence. Remember that there were multiple insurance coverage lawsuits pending when the Ch 11 was filed. It was a big mistake to not move for relief from stay last year in those actions. Those cases would have provided clarity for all the stakeholders now. In a case this complex, clarity of some kind must take place. The only piece of clarity that could shake up the carriers, LC’s and charters is a resounding NO vote by the survivors. 

1 hour ago, ThenNow said:

That’s the $65,000 question, I believe.

Actually, it’s not even a question. Go here and check out the award estimation calculator https://boyscoutssexualabuse.com/estimated-recovery-calculator/

57 minutes ago, 1980Scouter said:

would think it better to release a planner sooner before people start voting showing that compensation could be much improved in the TCC plan. 

That will show it is possible for LC's to contribute significantly more, as well as other sources too.

 

As much as I agree with you 1980S, it’s a tough call. I desperately want to see it, too. I also see the pros and cons of holding off. The BSA Plan is so awful it probably sit center stage for another month. As soon as the TCC rolls out it’s plan, the BSA and Coalition will deflect attention from its Plan thingy. 
 

The TCC has strongly hinted what’s in their Plan. It could throw out a few more breadcrumbs for us hens but I’ll respect their best judgement. Job #1 now is killing this turkey. Apologies to real gobblers getting fattened up as we speak. 
 

Oh, and one more thing—I miss Cynical and want him restored by the Mod thought police now!

5 hours ago, ThenNow said:

5 hours ago, ThenNow said:

Train wreck. They need a producer, coaching, a writer, an editor, more water for Ken…and, for the love of mercy, would someone please send Ken flowers and some multivitamins? He’s working night and day, and day and night. Crisscrossing the globe chasin nickels and twisting arms. BooHoo. Fa’gedabadit. 
 

Can’t take it. Now, “they’re not taking fees out of the survivors’ pocket…like other professionals.” Say what? “If you don’t approve, 5-10 years of litigation” pretty much guaranteed.

I’m out…

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Let me add, half hour and ‘answered’ 19 questions, most of which weren’t questions. No response to mine. Might be too many coming in they can’t or don’t want to answer. I was told the TCC answered 200+ in an hour. Gimme a break. This show ain’t ready for the road. Lotta dog. No pony or saddle-ready cowboys.

TN - More, give us More. This is too enjoyable to behold. Give us MORE! 
Is there a sitcom or comedy that it compares?  Bananas? Take the Money and Run? The Execution of Private Slovik? Hang ‘em High?

Ken looking advanced covidish? Did any of the other C lawyers talk? 
 

More!

Any idea how many participated in the Coalition Best of Breed dog show? 
 

Humphrey said Thursday’s TCC TH had over 1100. 

6 hours ago, InquisitiveScouter said:

We were discussing the possibility of Chapter 7.  If that happens, what would we do at the unit level? The desire, at least on our part, is to continue scouting as a church sponsored youth group.  Program would be pretty much the same, minus advancement and uniforms.  The current question we are looking into is cost of insurance coverage should we forge ahead sans BSA...

I’m glad to hear this. Green shoots that scouting will survive and thrive because the dedicated unit volunteers are the heart of scouting. BSA was formed by Congress ostensibly to ensure “high standards” are met. Here we are as a result. Smaller scale scouting will allow for experimentation and differentiation in programs and risk prevention. 
 

As for insurance, you can get it but it won’t cover sexual abuse. Those exclusions are near universal now. Knowing of the risk exposure makes people and organizations more careful which is a good thing. 

26 minutes ago, Eagle1993 said:

Just got an email from AIS recommending I vote yes. Repeatedly.

From AIS or Eisnenberg Rothweiler? Kosnoff is violently opposed. I’d wait for his letter if you are on the fence. 

5 hours ago, InquisitiveScouter said:

Here's a really tinfoil hat idea: CynicalScouter = Kosnoff

Kosnoff is not that smart. 

12 hours ago, SiouxRanger said:

 

12 hours ago, Muttsy said:

Anderson

What background about "Anderson" can you provide?  Many may not understand the reference, nor do I.

 

Jeff has been around the block more than a few times. His focus has been on the Catholic Church for decades but he has several hundred scout clients in NY, NJ and CA where he focused his ad buys. He’s represented several high profile clients and been in high profile cases like Penn State and the MSP ARCH bankruptcies. 
 

He’s a real showboat often over promising and under delivering. We’ll see what happens today at his presser. 
 

The expected and intended defense has a high evidentiary bar. It is more than gross negligence. Generally it requires an intent to cause the harm (here the abuse of children). 
 

with BSA it was an intent to prevent scandal and lawsuits. The consequence was the rape of boys for many generations. How close to the line will the whistleblower’s testimony go? 

I’m concerned as well Re blowing coverage  on expected and intended. Fortunately I don’t believe Anderson would be that reckless. But who knows how evil and deliberate the beans that he spills reveal. 
 

can’t wait to see the movie. 

1 minute ago, Eagle1993 said:

 

In terms of bankruptcy, if I’m the future claimant rep I’m calling off support for this plan.  The number of younger claimants and the value of their claims could explode with this info.  

 

Is that too late? The ballots are printed and going out. 

McGowan probably had him axed, screwed him out of his pension and thought MJ would continue being silent. 

Smith wasn’t Youth Protection Director  for ten years if memory serves. It has to be MJ. 

5 hours ago, CynicalScouter said:

Valuation was broken down into four categories

1. those that affect the amount of damages
2. those that affect the degree of accountability of the BSA based on any alleged connection with Scouting
3. those that affect legal considerations regarding the viability of the claim
4. those that affect the allowance and credibility of the Abuse Claim.

Was the Bates White  analysis Re #2 strictly pertaing as to BSA or did it include the liability exposures of the LCs and COs which in many situation were much greater than BSA’s? Do you follow?