buffalo2

DS you had to mention saurkraut and I got to thinking of a big ol' spicy mett with that sacred vegetable topping... And the Midwesterner in me must think about a happy and healthy ear of fresh corn - but Heaven forbid I'm digressing!

Interesting thread though; I'd not thought of the barbeque folks as a radical element before (2CubDad your mental picture has been revised somewhat) and firmly believe that sweet tea was created by a marketing department in an effort to dispose of an industrial byproduct of some sort.

Comes to mind that this is classic Scouting; making the best of something that wasn't quite what was anticipated, and having a good time with it regardless...(This message has been edited by buffalo2)

Our Council has recently opened up the Cubs-only Pow Wow and turned it into the University of Scouting. Includes some outdoor skills demonstrations and is primarily intended for adults and leaders, with an occasional Den Chief training and the like thrown in. Well attended, with a strong emphasis on using Scouts to teach wherever they can. An excellent program!

Wonder what would happen if half of the time and energy that we spend on semantic hair-splitting and sniping at one another was spent on something constructive?

Just a thought...

Shields up

Craneace: Would seem to me that if you were really wanting to learn a bit about the religuous beliefs that people attach (a great deal of) value to you'd consider reading a bit about their religuous practices, meeting them in person, and visiting their (yes their) churches - Perhaps consider introducing yourself to their Scout leaders?

But sitting in front of a computer attached to a bulletin board and trolling for responses is perhaps not the best method of conducting objective research...

Just a thought

Chili is one of God's gifts to us...

And heaven forbid that gets dissected and misinterpreted

Would you drive away as many as you might attract with too much attention on one theme? Most of the Crews that I encounter just call it High Adventure and they each interpret that differently, and many of them work in faith-based activities from time to time...

Certainly nothing wrong with Youth Ministry, but might be too small a group to apply that sharp a focus?

As we once more are led away from the descending spiral...

I like the concept of "our" Troop - kinda like "our" Church

And I'm quite clear as to who owns it and who is responsible for it

Maybe I'm just simple though

While I don't remember the details clearly (too much oxygen down here I think) had some discussion last year at Philmont about the jumping turtle - didn't move often but occasionally would dive from cliffs and glide for miles. Just look at that clean aerodynamic profile and smooth underbelly for skid landings. About 10 more attributes and talk fast enough and got away with it until the next turtle!

Had to be there I guess...

And a good old buffalo 2...

Hey Bob; you said something above about WELOT and OSI? I'm familiar with both programs (although not the new WELOT syllabus) but could you elaborate on the 'running in tandem' aspect? We're just getting the next presentation together and would hate to be missing something

Thanks

Scouting Magazine March/April 2002 offers a reference to a 16-hour Wilderness First Aid course 'recently developed by the ARC'

Anybody familiar with that? Sounds like this will fill a need

Thanks

Hardly sage advice but here goes again - We're big fans of Eureka tents; they last and last. We buy the 4-man flavor and they're a bit large to backpack with unless you can get 3 Scouts in one. Newer version has doors on both ends and a vestibule; pretty sweet. We get ours from CampMor at a reasonable price; the 10% Scout discount covers shipping. Good luck

Hops seems to be making the point that there are some aspects of the Advancement Chair's job that a youth could do. While we don't see it often perhaps, and it's somewhat out of the mainstream Scout jobs, I'd have to give it some thought if the right combination of Scout/adult could be arrived at.

Talent is too precious to squander at any age!

Thanks for bringing this out Bob - it serves a real need... Now how would you propose that we ask our local branch of ARC to come up to speed on it?

And I wondered about the history of thread color myself but maybe thats the nature of this medium...

Say it again Hops - I don't think that anyone heard you the first time...

Must emphasize something that Saltheart and several others have touched on; that while its great to have a lot of trained and motivated adults they must concentrate on supporting the Scouts that are doing (or could be doing) those jobs. Of course its more difficult to work through the boys but thats the most important part of the job!

Spaghetti / Chili is hard to beat...

Offers some choices all around and lots of folks can contribute

Way back when we'd put a few favorite activity patches on the inside of our sash - made for some trick sewing but good for developing the small motor skills! Pretty cool we thought...

Gotta agree with btps on this one and think about 'in the eye of the beholder'

YMMV

Why do you have to select those adults right now? Don't know what your timetable looks like, but might be able to work as an expanded crew on conditioning and pre-runs. As you get closer the problem might resolve itself... Would be nice to have a gentlemen's agreement regarding a fair way to make the choice though!

Perhaps we could think of ways to turn all of this potential corporate sponsorship to other uses - certainly don't see any harm in putting a company's name all over Food & Clothing Drive bags etc

And maybe even a tasteful logo on an event patch?

But straight onto the uniform is a bit much I think...

And this can't help but improve the communications between Packs and Troops

that is so important... Don't be shy about offering the services of your youthful experts!

You'd like to think that folks have better things to do...

Enough already!

While I don't spend a lot of time at these exalted levels, I must take exception to the under 22 part of that; thought on one's 21st birthday that they were to fill out an adult app and be welcomed into a new crowd.

The other thing that jumps out; not so sure of the dedication that I'd expect from a youth (or an adult for that matter) that was asked to 'agree to resign upon request' While it sort of goes without saying, that #11 seems just a little blunt.

And would have to agree that having this presented without some Venturer input and involvement in the creation is asking a bit much as well - but doesn't anybody on the office side work with these mysterious youth? They're capable of lots more than blind obedience...

Advancement details aside; if your Scouts aren't camping out on a pretty regular basis they're missing out on a big part of what it's all about... IMHO