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  1. An idea has been thrown out to the Troop Committee about forming a Venture Patrol in the Troop. The idea is to keep the older Scouts active. Does anybody else have such an arrangement in their troop? If so, what are the guidelines and regulations for them?

     

    Some of these older boys were board stiff with the regular meetings, and were disrupting more than they were helping. Are there any set guideline/policy before they started. Your input is appreciated

     

  2. On friday we are going be part of History, 227 years of it. We should pas on to Scouts the tradition.

     

    The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies

    In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776

     

    The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

     

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

     

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

     

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

     

    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

     

    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

     

    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

     

    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

     

    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

     

    He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

     

    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

     

    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

     

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

     

    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the consent of our legislatures.

     

    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

     

    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

     

    For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

     

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

     

    For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

     

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

     

    For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

     

    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

     

    For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

     

    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

     

    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

     

    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

     

    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

     

    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

     

    He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

     

    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

     

    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

     

    Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

     

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

     

    The signers of the Declaration represented the new states as follows:

    New Hampshire:

    Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton

    Massachusetts:

    John Hancock, Samual Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry

    Rhode Island:

    Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery

    Connecticut:

    Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott

     

    New York:

    William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris

    New Jersey:

    Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark

    Pennsylvania:

    Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross

    Delaware:

    Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean

    Maryland:

    Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton

    Virginia:

    George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton

    North Carolina:

    William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn

    South Carolina:

    Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton

    Georgia:

    Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton

  3. Local chartering organizations are responsible for the selection and approval of adult volunteers and they come from all walks of life. ???

     

    Merlyn, not all chartering organizations accept gays. There are plenty packs, troops and crews that are sponsored the RC church. They do not accept gays. Not all religions aspect the gay life style.

  4. From my understanding of the united way, the discussion to support the BSA is left to the Local Chapters. The local chapter that covers the territory that I live in may support the BSA but in the next county may have another United Way chapter and they can do what they want.

  5. With the Pew Charitable Trusts and United Way balking in funding the Cradle of Liberty Council. How the Council going to pick up the slack??

     

     

    Boy Scout Council That Won't Admit Gays May Also Lose

     

    United Way Funds

     

    Published on 6/26/2003

    Philadelphia One big charity withdrew a six-figure pledge to a Boy Scout council after it lost a battle to admit homosexuals, and the local United Way is considering following suit. The United Way of Southeastern Pennsylvania said Wednesday that it may yank its annual funding of the Cradle of Liberty Council, the nation's third-largest Boy Scout chapter, because of its policy of ousting openly gay scouts and troop leaders. The charity gives the Philadelphia-based council, which has 87,000 scouts in the city and its suburbs, about $400,000 a year. Pew Charitable Trusts, which had pledged $100,000 to the council, withdrew its offer because the charity seeks to work with organizations that share our values and ideals of inclusiveness and tolerance, said the charity's spokeswoman, Barbara Beck

     

  6. MarkNoel said: And done what? Lied? Hidden? What if he thought that the best thing for the Scouting movement here in the US would be to confront this issue head-on rather than having everyone pretend that there weren't gay scouts out there?

     

    I am not saying that he should have lied or say hidden. I am saying he should have not walked down the streets of Philadelphia with a sign in scout uniform. His actions have gotten him kicked him out of scouting and has brought this topic to eyes of the press.

     

  7. You said that:

     

    Second, this person is a COPE staff member. I have other staff members (teenage girls) who refuse to work if this person is around. He has hit on them and they are scared of him. That is behavior I can't tolerate at COPE. It defeats the entire basis of the 7 core goals of COPE.

     

    In a previous posting, I said keep the Camp Director in the loop. His actions off of camp property are now affecting the camp program. The Scouts are going to pick up on the fact the female staff members are not going to work with him.

    Have the Camp Director remove him from the camp.

     

  8. What was this scout thinking when he decided come out???? Didnt he know that his registration was going too denied??? Or asked not to come back??? Was he living in some cave on some island?? If he believed that the BSA was an outstanding organization he should have kept his mouth shout.

     

    By his actions he is tearing the BSA apart.

     

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