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About maryread

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  1. Yet there are people in the BSA community encouraging we start these programs. Currently my BPSA group has more boys than girls in it. We're fairly new, and not very large. The boys in the group are not Cub Scouting as well (not that I haven't encouraged it). The other BPSA in my area is quite large, and also has a good amount of boys in the group. There's a big difference between my BPSA group, and our Cub Scout pack though. Cub Scouts is always a much larger event when we get together as a pack, there are lots of kids running around, the energy is different. BPSA is focusing on more of t
  2. legacy. Scouting is built into our constitution, with our President as it's leader. It's important. It's not what I want, it's what the youth want. Heck, our state accepts 2 lifeguarding certifications. Red Cross, and BSA. I'm a reasonable person, and I'm going to help out the best I can with my BPSA group. I just still don't see a problem with the girls in our pack officially participating and being recognized for their achievements. They're already there, they're already doing everything with the boys if they want to. And it seems that most packs in our district operate the same
  3. Why was it that you returned to BSA after having a poor experience with it? http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2016/03/03/photos-scouts-meet-president-obama-to-deliver-report-to-the-nation/ ​
  4. Funny thing is the pack in the article thought they were doing everything above board. When they started piloting the Lion program years back they had been wrongly informed that it was part of the Learning for Life program (co-ed), and had a girl interested and signed her up. When it was time for the boys to move up to Cub Scouts, they did, she didn't. She would still do everything with the pack. They came up with a plan for LFL groups to work in conjunction with Packs and Troops, and had this plan approved by their Area. They had been functioning as an independent den within the pack. I'm un
  5. Very impressive Great to hear she'll be in the marathon! The starting line is a just a couple of miles from our house, we watch it every year. ​ ​
  6. Yeah, but if I don't try and save the world, who will? In all seriousness though, I can't help thinking of myself as a child. Unless there is someone like me offering co-ed scouting type programs all over, there will be girls missing out on the experiences. BSA groups are everywhere.
  7. I understand what you're saying. And to be honest, the making money part of your suggestion was the biggest turn off, but I have a feeling it would be encouraging to BSA to follow through with it. I've actually been building my own handbook. I'm technically chartered through BPSA but it's been tough working through them, I can't get ahold of anyone in the central organization for information. So will probably be moving forward as an independent group. Plus I'd prefer to not have to follow male/female leader requirement for co-ed groups. But BSA is a great organization. And to be fair, BSA
  8. I don't doubt this. Just because we have lots of female leaders in our pack, it doesn't make it better. That's just how it's worked out, we have a real hard time getting anyone to volunteer. Although that may be in part to the current CM's lack of trying (I'm due to take over in April, I've already filled 3 positions that have been vacant for the past year) I'm definitely the most adventurous out of our group. I've had so much push back just by trying to get the pack to use mess kits vs. disposable paper products. The kids don't help with cooking or cleaning up after meals. They're very coddle
  9. Pretty much how I would picture it going. I really can't imagine BSA filling up with girls just because they're allowed to do so.
  10. Going forward, if things were to change, I'd say absolutely. They should be afforded the same benefits, including liability insurance. To be honest, BPSA does the male/female leaders. If they're both present as kids, they need to both be there as leaders as well. If it's something that BSA felt was necessary, I'd be all for it if it meant heading in the right direction. It can be somewhat of a hinder to be honest, and I'm not sure I feel the need when 2 deep leadership is already required. Having the siblings participating currently isn't anything new for our pack I believe, it's been goin
  11. The fact is that the girls are already there in our Pack. They can participate in almost everything we do, they're already doing it. There's no boy/girl separation. They can participate in some district activities, in our summer camp program. They're just not recognized for their achievements.
  12. Let's just say that BSA allows girls to join, and Girl Scouts still exists. Do we really think they'll be flocking to join BSA? Just because a ballet class allows boys, doesn't mean that it will fill up with them. I would like to think that most girls would still like to continue with Girl Scouts, because they do girlie things, things that most girls are attracted to. I would have preferred BSA, but that's because I liked to do the things that were generally associated with boys, and liked hanging out with boys. I wasn't like most girls I knew. If we were to take Boy Scouts out of the pict
  13. To be fair, I've read Scouting for Boys and The Wolf Cub's Handbook​ by BP and the current Cub Scout program is a far cry from his original program. That wasn't brought on by girls, it was brought on by BSA evolving to match the interests of today's kids. To increase registration. BPSA comes much closer. I'm actually also a Scoutmaster of a small BPSA group but my Cub Scout siblings want to be in Cub Scouts with their family. The argument of having girls being a distraction while administering safety instructions became invalid when homosexual boys were welcomed.
  14. As a girl growing up, I much prefered to play with boys, to do what most would consider to be activites for boys. I still do. There's no way I would have signed up for Girl Scouts as a kid, even if they did more outdoor activities. I hated skirts for one, I threw temper tantrums whenever my mom tried to put me into one. But the biggest part was because I loved playing with boys. I loved getting dirty, climbing rocks, fishing, ANYTHING that brought me outside and allowed me to challenge myself. But I was lucky. My dad was generally not in the picture, my mom was busy trying to support my si
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