BSA470Firstaider

Sorry to say it but adults took SBA lifeguard at camp last week and I (SPL) had time to take it AND do all of my work. -Jeff

What in hell is wrong with you? Pardon the vulgarity but how can you say that all HIV positive patients should be put on an island? How do you know how they got it? Are you saying that a Paramedic that responds to a scene nicks her glove and develops HIV after serving his/her community should be banished? I have a lot of trouble understanding that. I have in my years dealth with HIV positive pts. and i'm sure i've dealt with some who were and never admitted it. This irks me that someone could say that and not regret it, but o well I just hope that someone dosen't not save anothers life b

Well to answer how to keep some information private and still be aware of whats going on I suggest making a card on cardstock or something heavy and ahve all of the important info on it like allergies, meds, emergency contacts, etc... and then leave the medicals inside of a manilla envolope until they are needed say in an emergency. -Jeff

First since I started this thread I think I know what it was supossed to be about. Second, you are making it too personal. I created this so that I could get input from different scouts/scouters and compare protocols. In addition emergency meds aka epi asthma meds etc.... are/have/will be carried on person the rest of the meds are kept in the health lodge. -Jeff Please feel free to respond or pm me in reference to wat i have written.

Duh! for being rude but yes there has to be medical personel on premesis at all times according to the health and safety guide. Anyway why should an adult even have a scouts meds. I feel and maybe wwrongly that medical staff no matter what age should have more of a right/duty than an adult non medical staff to take care of meds. PM me with comments. -Jeff

Hey I live in frederick, md near gettysburg any ?'s let me know.

First let me just say i'm not being deffensive or at least trying not to be. This is the site that it can be found on http://usscouts.org/usscouts/safety/Health/ In addition I found this L. Medical Information It is recommended that all members of the Boy Scouts of America have periodic medical evaluations by a physician. In recent years, in an effort to provide better care to those who may become ill or injured, and to provide youth members and adult leaders a better understanding of their own physical capabilities, the Boy Scouts of America has established minimum standards in pr

yes we are talkina bout the same thing. I never said director heres what it says The minimum training for the health officer in a resident camp is current training by the American Red Cross in Responding to Emergencies, which includes CPR, or National Safety Council First Aid and CPR level 2. One staff member for every 40 campers must be coached in first-aid practices for conditions most likely to occur in camp and trained in CPR by any recognized community agency. At least one food service staff person on duty should be trained in obstructed airway procedure. -Jeff

Wow I go to school and come home to find like 5 replys. First the 16yo was an EMT-B the 17y.o was a first responder. I am an ARC/AHA/BSA First aid/CPR for the professional rescuer. I will be the first to admit that I am not a medical professional, but since you brought up the G2SS you never mentioned the BSA Guide to Health and Safety which states that in order to be a health officer all that is required is ARC first aid and CPR for the professional rescuer. I might as well give up on the medical forms aspect because this is turning into a whos right whos wrong debate not a whats right and

First i said dehydration I never brought up heat stroke. The high temp was not high enough to be of a worry. Second I would like to say thank you to jbroganjr I couldn't have had a better example myself. I want to ask a question how many people reading this feel that medical treatement should only be done by those over 18? Where I live I can tell you that a good bit of the FF and EMT's who respond are under 18. Now while as I respect your input and the input of the physician you have spoken with I just wanna say that I feel what I am doing is right because an adult in my troop (Level 1 Tr

First at the army youth center that I volunteer at we requir medicals on every person attending. ALL the staff are aware of what meds the child may be on and any special conditions. Second, while as I respect your opinion the truth is that I have as health and safety director at our past ordeal had one scout with dehydration, 98.7F temp, and the EMT and I were taking his BP, HR, P, Temp., and checking his pupils(this kid came in looking pretty bad. We prepared to give 1/2 strength gatorade to help replenish his electrolites. He saw us prepare the gatorade never said a word. His BP w

Mr. White, Respectfully we DO have a PDR on site to use. Second we have a scale in the health lodge. So yes we can know the proper dosage. Second there are many OTC meds that can react with one of the many things EMT's will admnisiter to you.

Mr. White, Maybe the problem is that i work with first year scouts. When someone comes in we have a good chuck of them who can't even tell us if they are allergic to latex. We do pull medicals in those cases and review them. We have to know if this kid has a low white blood cell count and therefore can't stop his own bleeding. Now no i don't look at a form for a hoemsick kid but the point is that we as medical staff and i'm sure you know what i mean are required to respond. I have been worken up at 3am for a scout who got bored, couldn't sleep and started playin with his knife. in t

I resent that last comment maybe its me taking it too personal. I work at a scout camp nationally accredited. I work in the health lodge i'm 15 BLS there was a 17 year old First Responder a 16 year old EMT and an 30somethin year old paramedic/RN. We all did checkin and we did look at the form. Any parent who would rather have the first aid staff not treat because we don't know if they are allergic to latex or if they are on a medicine. Are you trying to say that only the paramedic/RN should treat and we should sit there when some kid got stung is in anaphalactic shock??? Please respond t

We do give scouts meds after calling the parents. We get permission document it admimister the meds. Its actually very common. -Jeff

I have worked in a health lodge as anyone who reads these posts would kno by now. We have scouts come to camp on meds and they don't list them on the forms. I know that they are on meds because they have them and let it slide. When asked they say there parents are embarrased about their child haveing a problem. usually ADHD or ADD. Sometimes physical or mental challenges. Anyone have ideas on how to get parents to realize we need to kno since the adults are responsible and if they ever get hurt they could die because of a medicine complication. Ultimaetly it is a betrayal when parents l

I have worked at camp in firstaid a.k.a the camp phone. We always get adults telling us to let them call home. I have found that if they call home it doesn't help it makes it worse and they will most likely go home early. We don't let the scouts call. And if they do call to go home we talk first so they have to tell the truth(we give the parents a heads up). Let me kno what you think. -Jeff SPL

After just getting back from a weekend campout I have proved my own theory. When a parent comes to visit. The scout gets homesick and later cries till he can go home. Any comment? -Jeff Troop 470 SPL

i personally don't like the idea of sending letters to the scout. I work in a health lodge in the summer or (the homesick hangout) as know affectionatly by the staff. I feel and maybe i'm wrong when a socut gets a letter he gets homesick(or even more so). Especially if he can call home. The camp policy is that the parents drop off the scout and then can not go past the check-in area. This way they leave and don't stay too long and let the scouts change their mind. Any comments pm me. -Jeff

Mr. Gagliano, If your looking for a good, cheap small kit I suggest you check out www.galls.com They have a navy blue fold open back for $16. You can'r beat it. And yes, I carry triangular bandages with me. The scout neckerchiefs are not very absorbant and so they don't work as well, not to mention i don't backpack my class A uniform. If you have any questions feel free to e-mail me. YIS, -Jeffrey SPL/Firstaider

I think your both wrong. YES women should (and are) allowed to go camping or do any other scouting activity. BUT, there is another end you need to look at. While i realise that most of the time the womeon are moms, aunts, etc.. there is still a safety issue. Please let me explain i'm not saying child abuse, or sleeping arangements, I am saying that if an 11 year old boy (going through pubetry) has a question or gets hurt he will be far less likely to go to a women. In working in a health lodge I have a 15 year old ARC First Aid/CPR for the Professional Rescuer had to treat patients becaus

Does anyone know a good source for first aid manuals other than Outward Bound? -Jeff

Gel is a liquid-solid solution that by definition must be more liquid than solid and therefore solid. Now then again this is all open to interpretation. The G2SS bans all excellerents so reach your own conclusiosn -Jeff

I work in a gov. kitchen in the summer and one thing we've had to take over is a saniserve certification program. The purell type waterless hand sanitizer(either made with ethanol alcohol or benzalkolium chloride) is fine to use AS LONG AS your hand are visually clean. If they have dirt, or meat juices you have to use soap and water. And the firestarter bit STUPID I'm not trying to be rude but your putting a chemical gel that is flammable and can actually harm your skin on your hands then cooking dinner. Sorry for the rudness but this was something that needed to be corrected.

I work in a gov. kitchen in the summer and one thing we've had to take over is a saniserve certification program. The purell type waterless hand sanitizer(either made with ethanol alcohol or benzalkolium chloride) is fine to use AS LONG AS your hand are visually clean. If they have dirt, or meat juices you have to use soap and water. And the firestarter bit STUPID I'm not trying to be rude but your putting a chemical gel that is flammable and can actually harm your skin on your hands then cooking dinner. Sorry for the rudness but this was something that needed to be corrected.