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BSA "Predatory Pricing" example: Uniform "Switchback Pants": $44.99 http://www.scoutstuff.org/bsa/uniforms-insignia/mens/pants/centennial-switchbacks-uniform-pants.html "Thrifty" example: non-BSA "convertible pants": $24.99 http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___75430 BSA "Predatory Pricing" example: Supplex Uniform Shirt: $44.99 http://www.scoutstuff.org/centennial-boy-scout-male-leader-long-sleeve-supplex-nylon-uniform-shirt.html "Thrifty" example: non-BSA "Men's Travel Shirt": $24.99 http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___73470

"But the BSA is a business, that sells and licenses products and resources to its customers. So yes, it's membership in some cases is a "profit center."" BSA is a business? Really? I thought that they were a non-profit organization. Based on this web-page http://www.scouting.org/sitecore/content/bsafoundation/donoropportunities.aspx "In many ways, Scouting is unique among the charities and other youth organizations of the world." I thought that BSA was a non-profit organization. I guess that I missed that memo as well.

"Talk about an oxymoron... you have to PAY to VOLUNTEER? That kind of puts a shot across the bow of community service." This seems to be part of a disturbing trend in recent years on the part of BSA National to view their membership base as a "profit center". The high-cost to serve as a volunteer at the National Jamboree is one example. Case in point: The "new" Centennial Uniform" costs significantly more than the prior uniform, it is lower quality and is no longer made in the USA. Case in point: Canada's Scout uniforms are made in Canada and cost significantly less t

At my district roundtable, I received a glossy, color brochure for the 2013 Jamboree, with the theme "Go Big, Get Wild" Link to the brochure: http://www.nashuavalleybsa.org/cms/images/stories/JamboRegistration_SBRsite.jpg Featured images include: - Skateboarding - A teenage girl shooting at an archery target - A rifle target - A scuba diver There were NO images of: - Scouts in uniform or "Class B''s - No tents - No traditional scoutcraft Did I miss the memo from BSA National about the change in emphasis of the Scout Program and the National Jamboree?

SaxTeacher: Your recent posting in this thread caught my attention and i feel compelled to address a number of the points that you raised. "Sure, you can order a "custom unit number" in a silly shape, or with extra words on it - but why not just order "the real thing"? That is, a one piece unit number with veteran bar included. It's cheap and easy." > The patches that I ordered from an alternative source cost significantly LESS than > BSA National Supply. I personally resent that BSA treat its members as a "profit > center". In addition my custom unit patches were

I would much prefer to support a Scouter in the US than a China-based, "sweat-shop" that is authorized by BSA National Supply to make Troop numbers. I dislike the use of BSA outsourcing on uniforms and related items to China in order to turn BSA supply into a "profit-center" for the BSA. What happened to: "On my honor, I will do my best, to my duty, for God and my country."? We would be better of supporting US-based, small business operations as opposed to China-based, sweat-shops.

I am also getting a warning message from Firefox (3.16.17) is a "suspicious" site. Here is the message: "This web page at www.scouter.com has been reported as an attack page and has been blocked based on your security preferences." There was no problem on May 11, 2011; the problem started on May 12, 2011. No problem is encountered in IE8.

Readers of this thread will probably appreciate this Youtube video: "A Disappointed Scout" on YouTube (This message has been edited by Wilton125)

BSA National Should Be Ashamed! 1. BSA chooses to have official uniforms made in a country that doe s not allow Scouting. 2. BSA offers inferior quality to its membership at higher prices. 3. BSA increases its margin on between uniform wholesale and retail costs This is just wrong; it reflects poorly on BSA National!

US Military Uniforms are made in the USA; probably because of a Federal Government law. So there must be vendors that produce uniforms for the US military that would like the additional business from BSA. According to Wikipedia, there are 2.9 million Scouts and 1.1 million leaders; that is a significant potential marketplace. I find it hard to believe that there are NO US manufacturers that would want this business!

I was a Scout in the 1960s and I liked the "classic" Scout uniform of that era. When I see Norman Rockwell pictures at my local council office, I always smile to myself about being a Scout in 1960s. From my perspective, some of the evolution over the past 40 years has been good, some has been bad and some has been ugly. Here is my personal opinion about the Scout uniform evolution: GOOD: - The tan shirt with OD pants - The introduction of switchbacks pants - The introduction of breathable fabrics - The use of tan shirts into the Weblos program - The introduction of subdued

Reference: "Our local scout camp has spent a lot of money building a brand new scoutmasters lounge with Wi-Fi access, coffee pots, and A/C" If this is true, then it really reflects a sad situation about a Scout summer camp. As someone that has worked in the technology field (IBM, Deloitte, Intel) for the past 34 years, I really enjoy going to Scout Camp to get away from technology for a week. Personally, I think that this "Scoutmaster Lounge" sends the wrong message to Scouts at summer camp. If Scoutmasters have an a lounge with A/C and wifi, why should the Scouts not have the

A few days back, I asked about the following: "I am very curious about the rational for: - Changing the color of the switchback pants - Why? - Changing the design of the action shirt to include shoulder straps and the left sleeve pocket - Why? - Changing the accent color from red to green - Why? - Changing the belt on the new switcback pants - Why? - Finally, In the past, why was the neckerchief made optional and reduced to a size that really makes it useless? When the US military changes it's uniform, the changes are field tested and communicated to the person

It is good to hear that the BSA field tests these uniforms before they are adopted. Is information on these field tests available to the BSA membership? If so, where can it be found? Is there any reason that the feedback of these tests needs to be a "secret"?

How does the BSA test these new uniforms before they are made official? Over the past few fears we have seen the introduction of new pants ("switchbacks") and a new semi-official shirt ("Acton Shirt"). So I am very curious the rational for: - Changing the color of the switchback pants - Why? - Changing the design of the action shirt to include sholder straps and the left sleeve pocket - Why? - Changing the accent color from red to green - Why? - Changing the belt on the new switcback pants - Why? - Finally, Why was the neckerchief size reduced to a size that really ma

I just received information on the new Scout uniform. Overall, the new unform really did not come as a surprise. Given the recent introduction of the semi-official Boy Scout Action shirt and the switchback pants, I thought that this would probably be the basis of a new BSA uniform. And, the recent 2-for-1 sale of switchbasck pants, (I bought 2 pair as did many Scouts and Scouters in my troop) was apparently driven ny a desire to clear out soon to be obsolete stock. Like many on this forum, my unofficial field uniform has been a tan supplex shirt and OD supplex pants (both from C