SagerScout

Would some wise scouter (yes, I'm hoping for you, Bob White) please let me know what the rules for utilizing the fleur-de-lis on a troop tshirt would be? I'm thinking of doing a troop t-shirt for casual camp outings and wear-around use, using my trusty color printer and t-shirt transfers. (you'd be surprised at how good they can come out!) We're too small and broke to go to a screenprinter, I think. Short runs are always expensive. I was thinking of having the boys do a design but I don't want to infringe on the BSA trademark in any way. I noticed you can buy a sew-on fle

No, he's an adult size. And I think he really is that big. His shoe size is a 15, and he's easily six-four, and hefty puts it pretty mildly. His younger brother is also somewhat heavy, but less so, and he's not going to have problems getting uniformed. He is extremely intelligent, an avid ham radio operator, and a very pleasant and interesting young man. But standing out for his size, as he must have done from a very early age, he's not felt welcome in scouting before. However, he's been active in 4H and one of his 4H buddies is in our troop, so he has gotten interested in trying it.

THANKS sctmom! I'm now in the fray over at ebay but would have missed it without your alert because the title said CUB scout shirt 6x, so I hadn't even opened the picture. Now everyone just cross your fingers for me that the other bidder's last names aren't Rockefeller.... julia

We have a new scout, entering scouting at age 16 with a high degree of interest, who needs a uniform shirt in a size 6X. His younger brother has also joined, so the parents are hit with a double whammy on uniforming them, but they are doing their best to get the kids dressed. If anyone has a shirt in this size range that you would be willing to donate or sell for a reasonable cost, please contact me! And please spread the word among Scouters. Thanks in advance - Julia

OK, I found out half of the size info. We're seeking a 6x boy scout shirt. This is assuming the sizes are close to T-shirt sizes. The boy was ill and didn't make Scouts tonight, but the TCC is also in his 4H organization and knows that she ordered him a 6x tshirt and it worked out for him. Don't know about pants, but I think under the circumstances we may be able to get at least a one-time dispensation for him to wear non-regulation olive-green pants for the parade. Troop committee chair has talked to council four times. Local council doesn't have a needy scout fund but does have so

Bob White - Thank you for your reply, and as I have said earlier I understand and accept the BSA position that the uniform is required. We just are having a problem in our dirt poor startup troop with this one young man. The issue is that to get one custom-made uniform you must buy 2 the same size, at double the cost. Since even the normal cost is a problem for this family, this isn't looking good. I'm going to try ebay as soon as I find out what size I really need, and our troop committee chair is going to call council and see what she can come up with.... I just brought up the girl s

Amen to the toilet paper. My belt pack for such events also has adhesive bandages, gauze, antiseptic wipes, benadryl stick (for bug bites), triple antibiotic ointment in little packages, a break-and-shake cold pack (no hot pack, Texas doesn't have much frostbite), pair of gloves, feminine hygiene supplies (pads can double in an injury situation - they aren't sterile but they can back up a sterile gauze on a bleeding wound. Obvious when you think about it!) Yes, this is REALLY packed. Cell phones don't work all the time in our rolling hills but I try to have walkie-talkie contact with

Chippawa wrote:

My son is now happy to put on his full uniform for meetings and no longer minds being seen out "in public." But he doesn't go to public school anynore and the peer pressure is greatly reduced on him. When he was in public middle school he was a closet scout. He's able to resist the few nay-sayers on the block because he knows them well enough to say "what did you do last weekend? Oh, played video games...again? Let me tell you what I did..."

I'll ask his mom tonight what size he wears. It can be done, it shall be done.... Yes, starting the new troop is hard but I think it will pay off in the long run. I hope. Julia

You wrote: ,,SagerScout, I've heard some people say Girl Scouts are not AS friendly as BSA about wanting family involvment. Especially at the younger ages. Cub Scouts MUST have a parent on all campouts. Siblings are not only welcomed but encouraged in Cub Scouting. Boy Scouting is different, because it is also teaching independence. >> I've heard this too, and all I can figure is that it must be a localized situation. OK, yes, we do take Brownie scouts camping without parents where the boy's MUST have a parent along. But most Brownie troops in my area "camp" in comfy cabins

Good idea, but... This troop is only a few months old and is fundraising like crazy. We sold popcorn after the sale was already over due to the grace of our local council, who shared some of the 'leftovers' but it was a tough sale as the market had been saturated already. We've had a garage sale and will have another soon. But our bottom line is still not into 4 figures yet, our chartering organization is very non-profit (read: goodhearted but BROKE) and many if not most of the families are also pretty broke. We are really scrambling to try to get enough funds for summer camp this year

If it makes you feel any better, gentlemen, the women's shorts fit women as if they were men - that is to say, not well at all. Waist too big or hips too small, take your pick, bunch and gather in the crotch, sheesh. Yes, I confess to being generous in proportion but looking at these things, I can't imagine a time in my life when I was ever shaped that way, including my early twenties when I was a size 7! I assume that there was a particularly rude post that has thankfully been removed about Tiny. Being pretty dedicated to the idea that Scouting is for everyone including the different

Rooster wrote: I didn't think I had actually claimed anything, but I agree totally with your sentiment that I hope that the Girl Scout policy is protective of the girls! > If "tacitly condones" means the same thing as "considers it irrelevant" I guess you are right. However, if you look at it in another light you might like it better: The Official Girl Scout position is that education on these and other sensitive topics including religion is best left in the hands of the PARENTS so that the FAMILY may communicate their own FAMILY VALUES to their own child. What a conce

On selling the ADHD meds, I'm less concerned about MY troop's scout - whom I know and love - selling it than some OTHER scout swiping it. To some extent I agree with all those who point out that most kids of Scouting age should remember their own meds. However, some will either not remember or not want to be marked as different and those are the ones who may skip a dose or 3. The ADHD kids and those on psych meds will be in this list - the very ones you would like to be sure get their meds if they need them! (Although I agree that often ADHD kids do not need meds in a camp setting, an

The sleepy scout reminds me of my son. I arrived at summer camp about 3 days into the week and with one glance it was obvious my then-12 year old was on the edge of collapse. He had a physical and emotional meltdown that very evening. Figured it out when the Scoutmaster, with a totally straight face, said "Gee, I don't get it. I've been trying to get them in bed by at least midnight or 1 am every night...." He is one of those energizer bunnies that only needs 4 or 5 hours of sleep. MY son takes after ME, and a solid 8 or 9 is the minimum. With all the physical activity of camp and t

For any of y'all who do opt to administer meds, I thought I'd pass along my procedure (developed from being a GS first-aider). I put each child's medicines in a big ziploc bag, and put a sticker on it. Whenever meds are dispensed, I note the date, time, and what medication it was. That way, if there were a question later about the meds I could answer it authoritatively. I've never had a problem. The one time I had a girl who had a vision-threatening illness that required a tremendously complicated medication schedule, her mom volunteered to come along and chase her around with eyedrop

Here in South Texas, the Hispanic population outnumbers the Anglo. Our troop is mixed, both racially and income-wise (although the two lines do not cut at the same place). Honestly, I don't see a giant CULTURAL difference but the income difference is pretty big for several Scouts. My son's current troop is all homeschoolers, so that common denominator may level us out more than the race or income issue divides us. I'd echo the advice above: make it fun, make it affordable and/or help the kids who need it find camperships or other help, and watch closely to make sure that any adult prej

Rooster7 - I'm sorry, I did not intend for that to sound derisive at all. One of my best friends - and a very conservative Christian, I might add - says it like this: She thinks that the differing views that the different denominations and non-denominational churches have of God and the Christ may be largely attributed to an effect like that of the blind men examining the elephant. They got into a heated argument : "no, the elephant is long like a snake; no, stout and strong like a tree trunk..." God is so big, bright, shining and awesome that we his creations cannot grasp Him.

I was surprised at the medication paragraphs making kids responsible for their own medications - as pointed out, ADHD meds are essentially speed and can be peddled for good prices on the streetcorner. Doesn't seem smart to put that in the hands of a young kid at summer camp in a setting with a bunch of other kids, some of whom might not be perfect Boy Scouts, if you know what I mean. On the other hand, as mom of a severe asthmatic, I am MUCH more comfortable with my son having his inhaler in his pocket. I also greatly appreciated the fact the his former ASM (a doc) went to camp with t

Rooster7 - I read it despite your warning, as I AM usually offended by "conservative" commentary on liberal thinking. (Some of the articles explaining that the public schools are promoting homosexual promiscuity, for instance, I thought were really pretty off-the-wall, exaggerated, and hysterical, as some posts here from other Scouters - without mentioning any names....) However, this particular conservative commentary didn't really offend me at all, and I even found myself agreeing in many ways with it. I guess for me it goes like this: if the Boy Scouts were as careful as the G

Welcome Scoutruud, I'm pretty new here myself. You are correct that gay and lesbian persons have a terrible life here in the States, in some areas risking being beaten and killed if their preferences are detected. Here the worst insult that can be hurled in junior high (11-14 year olds) is "he's GAY" and if the label is believed to be accurate the unfortunate child may walk alone the rest of his school years (never mind the fact that many kids that age truly don't know yet if they are gay; never mind that something as simple as a speech impediment may falsely label a kid as gay). I

The Girl Scout book Safety Wise is MUCH more detailed although not longer. It just says it more concisely. I find meeting Safety Wise standards is considerably more challenging than meeting Boy Scout standards for similar outings. Also, the odds of getting "caught" if you shortcut Safety Wise are very high as the Girl Scout organization has leaders on short leashes. Safety Wise is placed in the hands of every new leader in my service unit at no charge to her at her first orientation meeting, and is likened to the BIBLE (as a Christian I had a problem with the metaphor but got the poi

OK, I couldn't vote because my answer is both. My older son is a senior in a public high school that has served him reasonably well; he's enjoyed being there and is popular with both the faculty (most of them) and the kids. It's a good thing he enjoys it because if he doesn't pull it together in senior English he'll be there one more semester.... He is diagnosed ADHD but has always tested 5 or 6 years above grade level in all skills, so has never had any Special Ed accomodations. I refuse to manage his homework so when he doesn't finish it or fails to turn it in, he gets a 0. Yes, these are

I'm astonished that we have not heard from any Sikh scouts or scouters. Are there none out there? A young man that has been confirmed in that religion does not cut his hair at all, and wears the turban... would this outward demonstration of inward faith make him less a potential Eagle scout? I think not. My scout son has short hair but my other son (17) has hair down his back, medium brown, clean, straight, and normally neatly tied back. When it is worn loosely down, with his tan and his classic good looks, total strangers do a doubletake on him as he looks like the Renaissance painte