Yeah, I'm referring to the Haversacks. I see the vintage ones on ebay, just didn't know if they still made them. You're right, today's overpriced packs have too many bells and whistles. Every kid on the block used these Haversacks as school bags, including kids that weren't even in scouts. That one bag lasted all through elementary and high school. By the way, these were still being made in the early 80's.