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  1. Rooster7, given that I am a STRONG supporter of the BSA's current policies regarding girls and gays, my responses to your post may seem strange to you. Point #1: Most of the world has coed Scouting. Not having been associated with any of them directly I can not comment of the level of "teepee creaping" that goes on there, but I am confident they have ways of addressing it. Maybe not, but I personally feel that even with protective policies in place the risk remains far higher than the benefit. That is not the only reason I have for opposing a coed Scouting program for Boy Scout
  2. let me see if I have all this straight. we all know what Establishment means, and we all know where Separation/etc. comes from. (We do, ya know.) Balogna. The vast majority of Americans today think the concept, even the phrase a wall of separation between Church and State is taken either from the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. It is a very common misconception. My apologies if I underestimated your understanding, but your comments support my assertion that the argument has shifted center. Original intent is no longer debated, not because the p
  3. littlebillie wrote: "You know, all Merlyn is doing is trying to make sure that everybody plays by the rules of the game - i.e., the Constitution. And even some of his loudest detractors have, over time, gudgingly granted that he is on firm legal ground - even though they resent it, and question his real motives." The Constitution? NOT! The arguments collectively championed under the "wall of separation between Church and State" rallying cry is certainly not rooted in the Constitution. In fact, that phrase is not found in the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence or the
  4. For the record, I said "unsubstantiated", not "untrue". The world isn't black and white. As effectively as the BSA's detractors are at asserting the contrary, holding a pro-heterosexual viewpoint does not make you anti-homosexual. I'll give the ACLU an equal allowance. Though they may not be pro-religion, I can be open-minded enough to allow them another option other than anti-religion. If they truly are anti-religion, facts should be brought forward to substantiate that position. Fair is fair. The article doesn't really allow for more than two diametrically opposed posit
  5. Well, other than an unsubstantiated character slur against the ACLU and the misquote I read of the Declaration of Independence, no one has lodged any other specific complaint. Rooster7, turn about is fair play. Why do hold the opinion you do supporting the viewpoints of the article?
  6. Agreed. I'm not a big fan of most of what the ACLU does, but they were misrepresented. If we can agree that the ACLU is not anti-religious we should also be able to agree that the BSA is not anti-homosexual.
  7. "Obviously not all will agree with the thesis statement of this article,..." OK acco40, so you find it to be mostly "rubbish". Care to point out what you consider to be erroneous?
  8. http://www.meridianmagazine.com/ideas/030630freedom.html Obviously not all will agree with the thesis statement of this article, but so be it. As Scouters, we have a responsibility to understand what is going on beyond the campfires. Whether we agree with the article or not, we should understand it. The article helps to frame the argument of homosexual membership in Scouting in a clearer light. Other examples of similar issues facing our world are given. Additionally, the same logic and arguments are applicable to the other, now longstanding issues (although, at least for the tim
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