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thanks for the quick response. He had the normal leaders esential, but also had atteneded woodbadge and was just finishing up his required time. The other assistant scoutmasters have delicately advised him that many parents have contacted them, and expressed concerns about the direction of the troop and the lack of respect that the scouts have shown and expressed. Again he has said that in the long run it will work out for the best and we may have some losses along the way. This is not exceptable to the unit or the committee. Yes he will be at the meeting and yes they are hoping that it won't have to come to a vote, that he will step down. They feel that he can still benifit the troop in an assistant position or some other way. Any more questions or other suggestions, please keep them coming

Eagle96

First off, some info. In May of 2005, our scoutmaster of 6 years decided to step down, as his son had earned Eagle Rank and he decided to give more of his time to his family. One of our Assistant Scoutmasters that had transferred from another troop 6 months earlier volunteered to take over as scoutmaster. As there were not any others looking to take the position and he was trained, the committee and the sponsors agreed to except him in this position.

With new people comes new ideas. He had some things that he wanted to see done differently, and as they seemed to be promoting more boy led leadership, the leaders and the committe once again agreed.

Unfortunately he is great at ideals, but lacks in the ability to follow through. He would dictate to the SPL what he wanted said and done. He does not communicate to others himself, but dictates to scouts what he wants said. These things were exceptable as it appeared that he was trying to instill in the youth leadership.

It has now been 8 months. There has been no advancement in the troop, except what was done at summer camp last year. Scouts have quit and told others that they don't like his attitude. He has been observed scolding scouts (loudly) in front of others. He has chosen to belittle scouts when they make youthfull mistakes. He has called Life Scouts and threatened to not sign their Eagle paperwork unless they attend a certain amount of meeting and events. These scouts are some of the scouts that are described in other topics now on the discussion topics. They made Life at 14 fulfilled all their requirements except their projects, and have been to some events in the past year, but not reguarly as they have other obligations. His opinion was noted, but as our troop has no guidelines otherwise, the committe feels that advancement is by the book. The final straw came at a fundraiser recently. One of the foremention Life scouts was supposed to work a 2 hour stint, but as this was a Sunday morning he forgot and attended a youth group meeting at church. Our present scoutmaster took our committee chairman aside and advised her to call council the following Monday and tell our DE that she didn't know this scout, he doesn't attend "any" scouting functions and didn't deserve his Eagle.

These are not the leadership qualities that the committe is looking for in a scoutmaster. They are having an emergency meeting in a couple of nights to bring this all out into the open, and they are going to ask for a vote to authorize asking him to step down.

The question is? With the support of the sponsoring organization, can they in fact vote him out? I can't find any info on this in any of our council books. Though I'm sure there probably is. Any thoughts will be appreciated. Thanks Eagle96

Secod case, exact secnario. Thanks again, Eagle96

Thanks OGE. that's the way I read it also. In the 2004 requiement book it does state that they had to serve in a leadership position, but as I said they all did that. This subject came up at a recent council Eagle BOR, when I expressed a concern, the Chairman said that if someone from the troop brings up a concern regarding the scouts attendence that they have to consider it. Think maybe they are reading too much into it also? Thanks Eagle96

Like many troops, our troop is divided up into many age groups. Our question refers to the older scouts. We have many 15-17 year old scouts that have been with the troop for 4-6 years. At least 5 of them received their Life Scout rank more than a year ago. They were active in the troop for quite awhile after that , but now are more into their jobs, after school activities and sports. They still come to some meetings and attend some outings, but after years of scouting, they have other options for their time. Our questions comes in, they all fulfilled the tenure requirement which states that they had to serve in a leadership position for at least six months after achieving their Life rank, but now as they work towards Eagle, I have had others warn that they may not be approved as they have not been active in the troop for the "last" six months. Any idea what the official ruling is on this? thanks Eagle96

i am looking for the electronic eagle scout form for e-mailing information on your eagle scout project. i have seen ir sent with partial info back and forth, for the purpose of corrections to eliminate multiple times for apporval. our troop is 30 miles away from the approval committee and want to keep these trips to a minimum. thanks eagle96

have many life scouts getting ready to work on their eagle projects. as preapproval is necessary, they are getting their paperwork started. but our approval board only meets once a month and is quite a distance away. the boards head has suggested that we use the electronic form to send the information to him for inspection, and suggestions ahead of time. thus eliminating some of the trips spent getting the project approved. does anyone know how to find this form? thanks eagle96

looking for the past requirements for the swimming merit badge. i have a scout that has a partial from scout camp in 1999. i don't seem to have the book to find out what finished requirements transfer to the newest book. any suggestions on where to look/ thanks

i am new to this forum. and have a question that i'm sure that has been discussed many times but::: we have a local couple that makes too much money per year and they donate to local charities for tax purposes and to help the community. they have become aquainted with our troop and would like to help out our troop financially and help with the boys going to summer camp. can i accept a donation to the troop and give them a receipt or do they have to donate to the council, in which case can they specify where the money is to be used?? i will check back for answers, thanks for any and all input.

as a scoutmaster, i have to agree with bob white. we had a bully problem in our troop, and had the unusual situation of the boy having no living parents. his grandparents had their handsfull already and had enrolled him in scouting for the scouting principles. but with multiple incidences of bullying, i went to our committee and explained the ongoing problem. they, after talking to a representative of our sponsoring organization, talked to the grandparents. unfortunately they pulled their scout from the troop, but we did set policy on how we were going to handle ongoing problems in the future.

thanks for the thoughts thus far, benny having never been associated with hostels before, the idea sounds just like what we're looking for. any ideas on how to get information?

we will be returning to the science and industry, ahe planitarium and are looking to ride the subway or el train. so we would like to stay near the lakeshore area

looking for info on staying overnight with my troop in chicago on march 22. a ymca, a church gym, any suggestions. approximately 16 participants. please respond here or e-mail me at jjshoe43@hotmail.com