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See:
http://www.directservicebsa.org/pdf/13-027.pdf
This chart is also in your Cub Scout Leader Book.
In general June 1, or the end the school year, is considered the date on which Scouts advance from one level to another, regardless of whether they have earned the rank for that age.
As others have said, a few weeks to finish a rank is allowable, but that should be a rare occurance.
Moving from one level to the next should be recognized with a suitably impressive graduation ceremony
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The largest packs in our district are about 100-125 Scouts. Cubmasters struggle with running effective pack meetings, yet resist splitting. Parent seem to like the bigness - don't understand why. I can't imagine that they form relationships with many of the other parents. I think its that they don't have to do any work. There are enough volunteers to run a program, without requiring lots of parental involvement.
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The BSA publishes a resource which might help you.
It is called Delivery System Manual: Cub Scout Program. It is primarily designed for units run by para-professionals, but is also useful to small packs. The meetings are designed to be multi-level, all at the same place at the same time. You can adapt and modify them to meet your needs, I think.
The web site says:
"This syllabus is designed for leaders who do not have the adult assistance to break a pack up into dens for each rank. "
http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/523-006_web.pdf (this is the whole manual for you to download.)
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There was a post on the Scouting magazine blog, that has some info for you:
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Why not? If National considers a one-day event a day camp (as posted earlier), then it should count. Just because *your* council holds multi-day Day camps doesn't mean all councils do. Most of our council day camps, and many of the district day camps are one day events.
Council level day camps are held in Fall and Winter, and are one day experiences. Summer is primarily resident camp, but one day Webelos day camps are held, concentrating on some of the outdoor activity badges. These are also one day experience.
The intent of the award is to get the Scout to camp, one day, two days, five days - doesn't matter. It's camp.
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Actually the prices at the Scout Shop are pretty comparable to the online sources.
We have had good luck with AC Supply:
http://www.acsupplyco.com/estes/estesmain.htm
We have used the Wizard:
http://www.acsupplyco.com/estes/wizard.htm
and the Viking:
http://www.acsupplyco.com/estes/viking.htm
and the engines:
http://www.acsupplyco.com/estes/engines.htm
These are the BSA links:
Wizard
Viking
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"Some of the adults in this unit cringe any time the district executive shows at a meeting, and especially the council executive, because they're afraid they'll have to listen to one more pitch."
In 20 years with my pack I have **never** seen a professional at one of our meetings.
As part of a unit rescue team, I've worked with a DE and a commissioner to help a unit, but that's different.
To have the Scout Executive show up would mean something important happened - like a heroism award.
Why do they come? Are they doing your FOS? That's a volunteer job.
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OakTree - our council has 8 camps. Only three of them are "Boy Scout" camps. All of the others support Cub Scout camping in some way, either through organized day/resident camps, or facilities for pack camping.
As for capital campaigns - they can *only* be used for building new facilities or upgrading existing ones. That money can't be used to pay the electrical bill, or the garbage hauling fee, or the ranger's salary.
And our pack provides opportunities for monthly payments, as does our council for FOS - I can even log into an account on our council web site and e-pay my FOS pledge.
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On another list in which I participate, we've been having a discussion on camp fees. One poster was told by a camp administrator that their Cub Scout Resident camp costs the council $400 per Scout to operate one camp session. Families pay $135 in camp fees for that session. So the council (from FOS, popcorn, etc.) provides $265 per camper per session. Your $2000 (in that council) would have helped 7.5 Cub Scouts attend resident camp. Seems like a really good value to me.
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The Age Appropriate Guidelines saws that Webelos may participate in "cooking outside". I infer that to mean camp stoves, campfire cooking and yes, even Dutch Ovens.
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It looks like its still walk in:
http://www.bsajamboree.org/Visitor.aspx
However, I believe the security arrangements require ID of some sort.
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We don't call ours an "opt-out", but it works like this. Each Scout is expected to bring in $125 of profit from our fundraisers each year. Say he sells enough to gain $50 in profit. His remainer is $75.00. His parents are given a bill, and offered the option to pay $10 a month for the rest of the school year. (Nov-May)
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A Cub Scout Klondike is merely a winter day camp. We call ours WinterQuest, but its still day camp.
You will find that Day Camps vary widely and wildly across the country.
From Outdoor Program Highlights:
""The camp that comes to the boy," day camp is an accredited, organized, **one- to five-day** program for Tiger Cubs, Cub Scouts, and Webelos Scouts under trained leadership at an approved site, and is usually held during daylight or early evening hours, but not overnight."
http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/CubScouts/resources/CubScoutingHighlights/05.aspx
So, IMO the Cub Scout Klondike fits the above definition and would qualify your Tigers for their Outdoor Activity award.
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We've done baked apples, stuffed banans, monkey bread and cowboy popcorn. And a few others I can't recall
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I have a home label maker. An older model of this:
http://global.dymo.com/enUS/Products/Personal_Label_Maker_LetraTag_Plus_LT-100H.html
There are tapes available for the machine which iron into clothing.
Much easier than mailordering, and has many other uses around the house.
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If an allegation of sexual or physical abuse was made against the Scout, yes. The same standards apply to youth members which apply to adult leaders. If an allegation is made, the council may suspend the alleged perpetrator until an investigation is comcluded.
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Have you seen the "Cub Scout Cycle"? - its in your leader book. It shows the typical schedule on which Scouts move to the next level
http://directservicebsa.org/pdf/13-027.pdf
It shows that June 1 is the "roll-over" date from one level to another.
Read the definitions for joining - a Tiger Cub is "a boy who has finished Kindergarten", a Wolf "has finished first grade", etc.
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The troop my sons were in had a red and white neckerchief and a white turks head slide (woggle). The woggle is a standard slide in many other countries, and is not restricted to Wood Badge.
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I have mislaid my brimmed hat. I would like to replace it.
With my yellow/blue uniform, I occassionally wear the blue Cub Scout Leader beret or the blue female leader's hat:
http://www.mninter.net/~blkeagle/hats.htm (scroll all the way down for female leader hats).
BTW - anyone know where I can get an olive green one? eBay has failed me.
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From the Insignia Guide:
"The Neckerchief
Official neckerchiefs. Official neckerchiefs are triangular in shape. Tiger Cub neckerchiefs are orange and blue. Cub Scout neckerchiefs are gold with blue border for boys working in the Wolf Handbook, light blue with dark blue border for boys working in the Bear Handbook. The universal Cub Scout emblem is displayed in a central position on the downward corner. Cub Scout leaders may wear the blue and gold Cub Scout leader's neckerchief. Webelos Scouts wear the gold, green, and red plaid neckerchief with the Webelos emblem on the downward corner. A Webelos leader wears a neckerchief similar to the Webelos Scout neckerchief, �except that it has gold embroidered edging and is larger.
A special Lone Scout neckerchief, No.�00703A, is gold with the black and red printed insignia of the lone Scout. It is worn by both Lone Cub Scouts and Lone Boy Scouts.
Boy Scout neckerchiefs are optional. The troop decides by vote, and all members abide by the decision. If the neckerchief is not worn, then the shirt is worn with open collar. Boy Scout and Boy Scout leader neckerchiefs may be worn in a variety of plain colors and contrasting borders. Those available through Supply Group include the embroidered universal Scouting emblem if perma-press, or printed if not. Troops choose their own official neckerchief.
Local councils may prescribe the specific official neckerchief to be worn by Boy Scouts and Scouters on a council or district basis.
The neckerchief is worn only with the official uniform and never with T-shirts or civilian clothing. All members of a troop wear the same color.
Special neckerchiefs, the same size as the official ones, may be authorized by local councils. Such neckerchiefs may include identification of the chartered organization. The standard �designed neckerchief may be personalized with troop number, city, and state. By troop approval an Eagle may wear an Eagle neckerchief."
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"b. The unit has a choice of wearing the neckerchief over the collar or under the collar."
http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Media/InsigniaGuide/03.aspx (scroll down to the bottom for info on neckwear)
From the Boy Scout Uniform Inspection sheet:
"The troop/team has the choice
of wearing the neckerchief over the turned-under collar or under the open collar."
So when wearing the neckerchief over the collar, one turns the collar to the inside of the shirt, so that it resembles the old collarless shirt.
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ScoutFish - you said: "My biggest point is/was/ and will continue to be: Why spend a weekenf d in the woods doing what we already do at all the den meetings"
A very valid point - and none of us I think are arguing against that. Most of our campouts *are* like that. I think this may be where some of us are having a disconnect - egg races, talent shows (tasteful), sack races, parent/kid baseball games, frisbee golf, shooting sports (allowed in my council) - these are all features of pack campouts in my pack and district. Some of this stuff doesn't go on at other meetings, but a lot of it does.
Nothing you've propsed so far is all that unusual or unlike what happens at den or pack meetings. If these things aren't like what happens at your meetings in your unit then something may be wrong in your program.
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The supplemental training module on ADD/ADHD is here:
http://www.scouting.org/filestore/ppt/ADHDTips.ppt
http://www.scouting.org/filestore/doc/ADHDTips.doc
It is a PowerPoint presentation and a discussion outline.
If the leaders of your son's unit haven't seen it, and you think it would be useful, I would recommend sharing it with them.
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Say you have a 4th grader who's really gung ho, and can "show his knowledge of the requirements to be a Boy Scout" and can recite the Scout oath - are you *really* going to wait until June 1 after his 4th grade year to sign that? Or you vist a Boy Scout oriented outdoor activity twice during 4th grade - you'd sign that, right?
Being active in your den for six months since turning 10 or completing 4th grade is just one of the requirements for the Arrow of Light. It is not a prerequisite to allow a Scout to work on the other requirements. An active Webelos Scout in an active den could actually get that requirement signed off last - when the six months have elapsed.
So really - a Webelos Scouts starts working on the Webelos badge and the Arrow of Light as soon as he becomes a Webelos Scout.
How much do you spend per year on your cubs ?
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Our cost per Scout is $125 per year.
Includes:
- BSA fee
- Boy's Life
- Handbook & neckerchief
- All badges, patches, belt loops (no limit), pins, etc.
- Blue & Gold banquet (including entertainment, food, etc.)
- Pinewood Derby (trophies & Patches)
- Graduation campout - includes whole family
- Fees for rental of our meeting place
- Leader training, recognition & program materials
- Den materials budget
- Miscellaneous expenses