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My first car was a 1989 Pontiac Bonneville. That thing was a tank! When we traded it in my junior year of high school, I think we got $1500 for it. Tires were old, one passenger door didn't even open, and the gas gauge did not work. And the CD player that my sister had put it in was taken out the day before it got traded in.

Then I drove a 2001 or 2002 Chevy Malibu. Great car that was previously a rental vehicle. It lasted a few years before dying during my sophomore year of college. My brother was driving it in town the night after I got back from college for winter break. The radiator was cracked or something like.

Now I'm driving a 1998 Chevy S10 extended cab. My dad has had the truck since 2001 and now I've had it since 2009. It's a great truck, but starting to show its age. Third door is broken and the AC doesn't work. Rust is also starting to show up..

My first purchased vehicle may come in the next year or so. I'm hoping to save up working and living at home so I can purchase a new vehicle with cash..

I'm sure you've all seen this before. I still think it has some merit in the big picture.. I've grown up with both parents being teachers my whole life. My dad has coached which provides (a little) extra money on top of his regular salary and my mom works a part-time job from April-October. People would think that we should be living high, but we're definitely not. We're not downright poor, but we can't spend like people believe teachers are able to do....

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Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or 10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - baby sit! We can get that for less than minimum wage. That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan -- that equals 6 1/2 hours). Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children.

Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations. LET'S SEE.... That's $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).

What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 15 children X 180 days = $140,400 per year. Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here!

There sure is! The average teacher's salary (nation wide) is around $50,000. $50,000/180 days =$277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student--a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!

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Obviously this idea has its flaws and I'm sure some will be able to name plenty of them. I wonder, though, how close to something like this a taxpayer pays each year?

Bando, I'm sure there's many reasons people at the Hill don't want him at the Arena in the next couple of weeks. Politics could definitely be one. But also some of them flat out just aren't interested because of the mess having the President creates. I was there in 2005. Yes, I WANTED to see President Bush speak. But the security fiasco that went along with it led to a less than desirable experience. For one thing, trying to get 75,000 through security just created havoc. And then the rules were different depending on the gate you were sent to.

If I were to have attended Jamboree this year (would have liked to) then I would have likely chosen not to go to the arena show just to avoid all the hassle.

Eamonn, how many time do I have to tell you speaking English is illegal in many places in the USA?

***The official language is AMERICAN:)***

I would get a hydration pack-- Camelbak, Source, etc

Trying to think what else.. I went as a staff member so things were a little different..

I'll take some dump cake! Or pie. whatever you got

Our troop uses the Eureka Timberline Outfitters as well. Then we have 6 backpacking tents of another brand as well I believe. We have a bunch of the Timberline 4 Outfitters-- they're great tents..

E, those people that know they have to pass a budget wait until the last second because then THEY get paid more. Yeah, that makes sense... they can't find a way to responsibly spend money, but they get a raise every year. Or maybe that's just Illinois politicians at work? I want to say that in Illinois if the legislature has to come for a "special session" then they get like $100/day or more. If they are there during their "normal session" then they don't get that extra money.

I love how California is giving out "IOU's" to everyone now. You think if you or I had a bill to pay to the state of California or taxes, etc you think they'd take an IOU from me?

I've got the Zephyr 2-man from Alps. It is just a tad small for two people. Another 6 inches wide would be great! My only other complaint is that the vestibules aren't quite big enough either. My pack (an Alps pack) doesn't quite fit in it along with my boots. Really great tent though and can't beat the price!

Couple items you've included that may or not not be included in the budget..

--Ammo--> One camp I've been to you had to pay a fee to shoot. I don't know what ammunition costs, but I think we paid about $10 for rifle shooting.. Another camp I've been to, all the ammunition was donated. That council has one of the major rifle companies in their council. Also, the camp would then take the spent shells and sell the aluminum!

--Merit Badge books--> Camps I've been to sure didn't provide these. They sold them in the trading post, but I would imagine they weren't losing much if anything on having these in the trading post for sale.

--Blue Cards--> Our troop has always provided our own; I don't quite see this as a camp expense.

I joined Tiger Cubs way back in 1st grade I guess. Was in Cub Scouts, Webelos and then onto the Boy Scout troop. Stayed in the troop through my 18th birthday and ended with the Life Scout rank. I served as nearly every youth leadership possible available including SPL and JASM as well as serving on the 2005 National Scout Jamboree Youth Staff in Action Center D on the rappelling tower. As many here probably know, I wasn't much for advancement and merit badge stuff, but I love(d) Scouting and always enjoyed the camping and hiking stuff. Water not so much

Now I am an ASM with the troop, but I don't make it around too often due to college and such.

I used my Alps tent and backpack for the first time this weekend. I have the Zephyr 2 and it is absolutely awesome. The only thing I would really say is that it could use to be just a tad bit bigger. Really for any price, I'd say this is a great tent for high adventure. Not something I'd want to share with another person for 3-4 days, but definitely a solid product!

I was alerted to this and I am working to move the posts so we can ban the user.

Thanks

I typically carry between $20 and $40 in my wallet for little things at the gas station, fast food, vending machines, concession stands at games, etc. For gas, shopping, etc it's all debit card.

BadenP, thanks for proving my point.

Kahuna, I'm with you...

"this is one of those threads that would have had me po'd before, but now that we won, I find it really humorous."

And that is why we have the problems we have. Party first, country distant second.

gwd-scouter,

You talk about the "gloom and doom" from conservatives, but really the only difference between what is being said now and what was being said 6 months ago is the party that is spouting it off. Really, I'm not a fan of any of it.

In order for this country to get back on its feet, EVERYBODY needs to work together. That isn't happening and hasn't happened for quite some time.

Lisabob, I say that knowing President Obama was on vacation for 3 weekends already I think? And I don't entirely mean vacation, but the fact that he was campaigning for the Presidential Election of 2008 all the way back in 2005 while he was supposed to be a US Senator representing the state of Illinois.

As for Bush, I'm not defending him.

I just get a kick out of how different things are with a different party in office.... can't say I really like either of them even though I was a fan of President Bush at one time. President Obama I haven't made a decision on yet unlike many.

By the way, I giggle every time Clinton gets used to try and justify anything that Bush did. Bush will go to his grave with people still talking about his predecessor. What does that say about Bush's legacy. Everything, as far as I see.

You realize that this is Obama's exact excuse for EVERYTHING? And if he isn't using it, his supporters are all over it.

And talking about AWOL in Office.. Barack Obama spends more time on vacation than he does anything else!

MileHighScouter, did you really need to resort to name-calling?

And let's remember that both Bush administrations had to deal with combat-- Clinton did not. Believe it or not, combat costs money. Especially when the previous administration cuts military spending in half.

Hal, I don't have the source at my fingertips at the moment, but I have seen it lower.. maybe a different term I'm thinking of?

The president is still the president. You should hold the man up in prayer if you like him or not. He is still "THE MAN."

Interesting you say that. If that would have been said 8 months ago, 2 years ago, etc the Democrats would have just laughed in your face. But now, it's a different story-- you must bow down to him. Yeah right.

President Obama has a lot of work to do. He can start by giving us some kind of hope because right now he is destroying it and his approval ratings are already starting to fall...

So I thought I had posted here somewhat recently but I couldn't find it and I went back to 2004

As was mentioned above, I am a college student. I am a 2nd year student and have Junior standing due to credits. My major is athletic training. Classes for this semester include Kinesiology, Public Speaking, Exercise Physiology, Advanced Injury Assessment I, Practicum in Athletic Training II, and Economics 101.

I also work at a physical therapy clinic and fitness center as a Fitness Staff Member and a Physical Therapy Aide. I am currently in the process of applying for an internship with the Denver Broncos for this upcoming training camp.

I have not done much in the way of Scouts since high school. I am currently registered as an ASM, but only very occasionally make it to a troop meeting. I unfortunately have not been camping in almost 3 years

It's impacting me in a couple of ways. I'm in my 4th semester of school and I already have about $18k in private loans to pay back plus the Stafford Loans that I have which is probably between $6-10k at this point. I've got 3 semesters after this to go. From that standpoint, I'll say some money with not having that 8th semester to pay for. Problem will be what I do at that point.. do I stay at school and begin working on a Masters? Do I enroll in Grad School elsewhere in January? Do I try to find a job short term until the fall semester? Do I try to find a "permanent" job? Time shall tell.. I have noticed there are a lot of colleges that are now hiring grad assistants or interns rather than full-time staff members in their athletic training departments. Hopefully that changes over the next couple of years..

My current job that I work while on breaks is really one where I could be cut because I am not an essential position or I could possibly see my hours increased at the expense of another employee because I am paid less than some of the others that do a similar job. A decent chunk of the revenue for the business is through insurance for physical therapy. We also have the fitness centers and those membership dollars coming in, but the main thing is the physical therapy payments.

My parents cannot pay for my college. I've got 4 siblings and my parents are both teachers. We've had good times and we've had bad times. I can remember days where mom went grocery shopping once every two weeks. When the end of those two weeks came up, the house was empty. But she couldn't exactly go out and buy food until that next paycheck. On the other hand, we don't go without a whole lot now. We've managed without the unnecessary "necissities" like the game systems and such. My parents are definitely doing their part in helping the economy-- they just bought a new vehicle (2008 Trailblazer) and they have bought 3 brand new laptops in the last 2 years. The truck I am now driving is a 1998 S10 that my dad has had since 2000 or 2001. If I am able to keep care of it as well as he has, it may be driven for another 10 years. A couple of dents around the bed, but that thing is in great shape!

"Now it is possible to hold eagle required PORs and be active in extracurriculars. Time and planning are must, and you will NOT be in the top positions. I knwo quite a few scouts who did it, and I also did it."

-Renaissance Student Steering Committee

-Lifesavers

-Baseball (4 varsity letters)

-Football (2 varsity letters)

-Basketball (2 varsity letters)

-National Honor Society

-Big Brothers/Big Sisters

-3.5 GPA

Finished as a Life Scout by personal choice. Served as SPL, JASM, and went to National Jamboree along with summer camps. It CAN be done IF they WANT to do it.