Eagle_23

with cub scouts it would be about maturity. there are some rather "complicated" values based around the OA, like the meaning of the admonition and the meanting of the obligation and such. A Cub Scout just would not be able understand the true meaning of the Ordeal ceremonies or other "values" of the order.

It just seems to be that the restriction on venturing units getting elections seems more to keep a tradition more for the sake of tradition rather than a tradition to maintain values. which to me is the wrong reason to have a tradition. thats simply my 2 cents

One thing that I keep seeing in these qoutes from old OA Manuels is about how OA has been the Honor Scocioty of the Boy Scouts Of America then reads off either a date or however many years indicating a tradition. One question that arises with me at lease is at what point does a tradition a enhance scouting overall or does it get in the way or the future? To me. A scout is a scout no matter what part of scouting they are in. Venturing is up to 21. Well so is the OA. With the exception of ceremonies and inductions, everything that would need to be updates to include youth females has a