Is this true?

[karen1970 10]

A leader can be a pack trainer, and work on the pack trainer and cub scouter awards using the same tenure. To take it to another level, the same scouter could also be a commissioner working on the commissioners key and doctrine of commissioner science at the same time - that's a total of four knots.

[Eagle92 110]

look atteh requirements for the awards. Most of the training awards state that tenure for one award cannot, again CANNOT, be used for another award. There are a few exceptions to that rule.

 

So if you are duel enrolled in multiple units, remember you cannot hold multiple roles in the same unit level except for an IH-COR-CC combination, you cannot use the same time period to count towards two different awards. UNLESS the requirements state that, and to my knowledge that is only the SM Key allows for use of Scouters' Training Award time towards the SM Key.

[ScoutNut 147]

The progress record for the Cub Scouter Award specifically states - "Dates of service used to earn this award cannot be used to earn another key or award.

 

The progress record for the Commissioner Key / Arrowhead Award specifically states - "Tenure for one award cannot be used for other training awards."

 

The Pack trainer Award has no listed tenure restriction.

 

So, even though the Pack Trainer has no restriction on tenure, both the Cub Scouter, and the Commissioner does. The 2 years tenure used for Cub Scouter can NOT be used also for Trainer, or Commissioner. Likewise, the 3 years tenure for Commissioner can not also be used for Trainer, or Cub Scouter.

 

You can use the tenure for Pack Trainer for any of the awards that also have no restriction on the use of their tenure. These would include the Boy Scout Leader's Training Award, any of the Varsity awards, and the Venturing Adviser's Key.

[ScoutNut 147]

The Doctorate of Commissioner Science Award also has no tenure restriction.

 

A person who is registered as a Pack Trainer during 2 of the 5 years they were also registered as a member of the Commissioner Service, would satisfy the tenure requirement for both awards.

 

[asm greg 10]

The Scoutmaster Award of Merit, which has been recently changed to the Unit Leader Award of Merit also does not have a stipulation of "double dipping" on tenure.