CMpack58

First off- as the originator of this thread I wanted to say thanks. I printed it out and provided it to the SM. I wanted to report back to all who have posted on the thread that last night at our Troop committee meeting we voted to stop the pushups. It was a very difficult discussion. The meeting included Our SPL and PLs. We had lots of discussion about who could give pushups or not give pushups. We spoke when pushups had a positive and/or negative affect. Finally people started to realize that the pushups may provide an immediate recognition that they did something wrong, but it did not have long term results. Scouts still came without a complete uniform, because they didnt care if they received push ups. Now we are going to adopt a set of rules that will be followed. (IE) No uniform 1st offense PL talks to Scout, 2nd Offense SPL talk to Scout, 3rd Offense ASM talks to Scout.

If anyone has a set like this, please forward to me.(CMpack58@yahoo.com) Also we recognized we need to train our youth leaders better within the Troop.

Bart

Our Troop has lost Scouts who A: could not do a push up (not physically fit) and B: Where so upset that the SPL was giving them pushups , they stopped coming.

I agree with your statement. I don't see it teaching anything. If a Scout doesn't show up in uniform then it should be reflected in a SM Conference or at the Board of Review under Scout Spirit. We have had Scouts quite because of this. The other aspect is that it is the Senior Scouts who hand out the pushups. What are they learning about leadership by telling someone they have to perform pushups?

The Troop my two sons have joined gives the boys push ups if they are late for meetings or if they do not show up in full uniform. What are you thoughts on this?

The Troop my two sons have joined gives the boys push ups if they are late for meetings or if they do not show up in full uniform. What are you thoughts on this?