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  1. The cub master has made it clear that he doesn't have time to talk to anyone about anything because he has a full-time job. He even said this in front of everyone from district. My husband told him he didn't want to hear it. My husband has a full-time and a part-time job. He said he still finds time to do whatever he needs or wants to do with our family AND put more time/effort into scouts than the cub master. Personally I'd rather talk to each other but we weren't given many good options here. Lesson learned. We had no idea that things should have been different or that it's ru
  2. Thunderbird, would Council have records if they were never reported to District?
  3. Perdidochas, we are finding out all kinds of things that we never knew and, given this was our first time in a pack, had nothing to compare it to. I believe that is why they are so mad at me, because they've gotten away with doing things however they wanted for so long, but I ruined that for them. I don't think anyone there does any more training than is absolutely necessary. They tried to talk us out of going to University of Scouting because "it's so expensive". It cost $35, including lunch. I wonder if they just felt we were showing them up by wanting to go...
  4. qwazse, I don't see why I can't show the signed book/cards to prove he earned what he has, but they all seem to be asking for this "transfer report" from the old pack. While my son is clearly not an instigator (which might be hard for others to see without knowing him) I do see what you are saying and I do fear that it will be heard for him to let his guard down in the future. Heck, we as parents might have trouble trusting again and that is exactly why I'm being open and honest with the new pack as far as what has occurred to prompt us to come to them. We also intend to refrain from
  5. Wow cyphertext. That surprises me as well. Maybe when they hear the same complaints from the other parents they will change their tune. The parents are also pointing out that word is getting around at the school most of these kids are recruited from, so if they think they will just replace them with all new scouters next year, they will be very disappointed as not many will likely be willing to even give it a try. The DE in our case was trying to be helpful. I think he is just young and in over his head. In the past the cub master has bragged to us (fellow leaders) about "putting the
  6. Not planning on it David. He has no interest in sports. He's is cray into science-type stuff. WisconsinMama, they don't have den meetings. The entire pack meets once a week. Typically all of the boys are together regardless of rank because there aren't enough den leaders to separate them into dens. The cub master's father is to my knowledge a registered den leader on paper, just because they don't have enough leaders, but he never has had anything to do with the cub scouts except to yell at them when they are being too loud. The cub master's wife is registered for the same
  7. I should also add that I tried to take this up directly with the cub master first, after the meeting. But he screamed at me that he did nothing wrong and it was my son's fault and then hung up on me. I have a friend who is a DC from another district. I asked him who should I report this to and he offered to forward my complaint for me. So that is why this went to the DC for our district.
  8. I'm happy to share David. So our son got pushed around, knocked down by other cub scouts on a nearly weekly basis. When he would get frustrated by this, we had a process in place. He would come sit at the parent table with me, I would ask him if we needed to leave, he would ALWAYS say no. So we would then sit there, take some deep breaths, drink a little water, and once he had recovered he would go back to rejoin activities. All leaders were familiar with this process and we've been doing it for over a year. On the night in question, he was sitting at the table with me after being p
  9. Thank you scoutldr, that is who I've been drafting this e-mail too, after it was suggested here in some of the first responses. Yes my husband and I were both registered leaders but we resigned last week. We felt that if our son were to continue at this pack, one of us would have to be by his side at all time, as one other special needs parent does with his son, and that wouldn't leave us the freedom of time for leadership responsibilities. They were sad to lose my husband but just plain blaming me for reporting them. But like I said, Happy to be hated for this purpose. There was no
  10. Understood David. But that does not excuse an adult leader bullying a special needs child. That is why this had to be taken to a district level. I think we may very well be coming from very different experiences. Sounds like perhaps district has been involved to the detriment of a unit in your personal experience. I'm sorry if that's the case. I think they should be there to help in circumstances that warrant it, but not be detrimental to a well-running unit. If a pack chooses to not allow a dual registered scout, they should say so straightforwardly. Allowing/making excuses for an a
  11. Thanks Parkman. I agree with "a lot of unusual" things happening. Unfortunately it was our first experience and we did not know better for the first year-and-a-half. Jameson, I've confirmed with multiple District Commissioners that dual registration is allowed, and according to the Guide to Advancement one pack/troop will be the "home pack" where advancement records are tracked because basically it would be too confusing to keep them at multiple units. The other pack does not collect full dues from the scout as registration only has to be paid once. What follows is what the DC quoted
  12. As I said before, we've never been invited or welcomed to these committee meetings so it's hard to know what is going on there. My main goal is to make sure that no child is ever treated as badly as mine was. It takes a special kind of ignorance for an adult to bully a special needs child. We can go back and forth about all this other stuff all day, for multiple days, but that's what it boils down to for me. We are walking away to protect our child. Just trying to make sure we're not leaving it open for anything like that to be done to another child.
  13. What means? It's pretty out of my hands at the moment... An adult leader bullying a child is unacceptable. I feel I did nothing wrong reporting that to district. I'd do it all again. I have no desire to infringe on anyone's rights, but my son has rights and should be treated properly, and anyone who chooses not to do so deserves to be reported. Not my fault all this other stuff came out because of it. New news! Went to transfer my boys records to a new pack. All that has ever been reported to district is 1 belt loop and his Bobcat, which he earned his first month of scouting. NOTHING
  14. David, I'm not sure what brought all that on or if it applies to this situation. We've gotten a bit far off of the original topic. I've already been advised by a friend who is a DC (of a different district) how all this is supposed to work, how our meeting should have gone, and so forth. He's really pretty ticked off about what has happened to us here. I was really posting here to get other opinions on what our next step should be, if there is one, for comparison. But bottom line, district is insisting on all parents being invited to a committee meeting this coming week to share the
  15. Yes David, that would be the cubmaster's father, the person at the meeting who was pretending that he needed to be held back from saying or doing something to me, as though he was going to haul off and hit a woman or something. Parents have NEVER been invited to committee meetings, most don't even know they exist. Leaders were invited once, but after that we were told that our attendance was unnecessary going forward. I was told I was only needed at that 1 meeting to "take notes" because the cubmaster couldn't make it. I'm finding out now that no one can tell us whether
  16. I don't know that there is a "Pack committee" The cubmaster sits on the committee, but it is not separate from the boy scout committee. Money is not kept separate either, and recently we were all informed that we are $600 in the negative and need to kick butt fundraising. I asked where the $600 went, given that we don't do any activities or go anywhere that costs money... Our questions were ignored. They just pushed the fundraising issue. My concern was that if someone has their hand in the kitty whom shouldn't, and if that situation was not explored & rectified first, we could fundraise a
  17. Thanks Brian. I am in the process of drafting an e-mail to the SE. Taking my time and waiting to see what news comes of the situation this week. There's so much more, it's just impossible to explain it all as I'd be here all day and I have a family to attend to. I just want to make sure if we walk away, at the very least changes are made to make it worth our sacrifice and ensure it never happens again. I'd hate for another passionate little cub scout's heart to be crushed the way ours has.
  18. Thanks ParkMan. We have other packs lined up to visit and see which he likes best. All have expressed sympathy for what we've been thru and would be happy to have him. David CO, I understand if the whole situation sounds confusing, because it is. I honestly feel there was something else going on in the background here. I grew up with these people and I suspect there is something, perhaps from years ago that I'm not even aware of, that maybe a grudge was being held that again, I am not aware of. All I know is we were treated quite harshly and badgered about a lot of things, when we
  19. He kept questioning us about it, we would explain to him what we had been told, he would drop it then bring it up again the next week, and so forth, for 2 months. He was finally set straight by district that dual registration is allowed and there was no need to drag out questioning us about it for so long. He should have gone to district if he had questions about it, not harassed us. I suppose if a pack is foolish enough to drop a dues-paying boy from their pack, who is according to them the best behaved scout that they have, whose parents are leaders who they desperately need and also
  20. I did and I found him! Thank you so much!
  21. Just googled it, the 3rd guy was the field director Will see if I can google who the SE would be
  22. Thanks Thunderbird. I'm not sure I know who the SE is. The district executive was at this meeting, along with a representative of the district commissioner, and another man I'd honestly have to look at his business card to remember who he was. They allowed the gang-up on us, and I honestly don't feel I can trust them given that fact.
  23. Thanks. Absolutely we are thru with the pack with issues. Also continuing the special needs pack. Given that he is homeschooled, I liked him having the exposure at the special needs pack as well as the pack with more neurotypical children, so we are looking to replace that one.
  24. I'm not sure where to post. Maybe someone can direct me... Our boy has been a cub scout for 2 years now. He loves scouting. He is interested in nothing else, no sports or karate, just scouts. He was recently dual registered in a 2nd pack that is more geared towards special needs. Upon finding out, his cub master at his original pack started telling us this was a problem and it was not allowed. I knew this not to be true but he gave us a hard time about if for 2 months. Things finally came to blows a couple weeks ago & he intimidated our son to the point that he was hiding u
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