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  1. I am afraid that I can do anything more... possibly, if could be helpful anyhow, I can make some bigger scans (in higher resolution)... will be glad even to send this card to the right address, if someone would like to investigate.

     

    I just planned to frame it and place it on the wall with other prints / paintings / photos I have.

     

    @ Tahawk... this could be easily some kind of promo piece... that is even more possible than this is some kind of notebook cover.. because any kind of handbook or instructions will have some title on the front cover. Also, from that time, even notebooks have had a title "Notebook" on the cover + usually some kind of reference number.

     

    Is your promo piece also printed on the cardboard or on the ordinary paper?

  2. Yes, that is Mr. David C. Scott. I have contacted him on his e-mail address (found  on his official web site), and he was so kind to reply me on my e-mail and to write his messege here, too. He wrote a couple of interesting books, and I will look forward to read them.

     

    @@Stosh - I don't know what to say... a lot of unusal facts and contradictions are connected to this paper. For example... if it is has been published in 1930-ies, or in 1940/50-ies, as CalicoPenn says, why someone will use info and standards (and a photo) which have been actual for a very limited time a decades before that?

     

    That is like that I am now publishing an actual manual for the US army, and I use info from 1970-ies?? And also a photo from the Vietnam War?? In old uniforms?

     

    If this paper (or cover) was printed in 1930-ies or later, a lot of almanacs and other sources have been available for the correct information... on the other side, I suppose that in that time some specifications and requirements, which have been actual for a very short time, have not been so easy available anymore?

     

    Also, why to use an unusual emblem, which have been used only a several months 20-30 years before that? In the 1930-ies the actual emblem has been much easier available everywhery than a historic one (used only for a limited time in 1915.) :-/

  3. @ quazse - It could be a front cover of the flip book, but I will place my bet on a blank flip note-book... not on the any entirely, or partial printed manual-type "notebook".

     

    Possibly a flip note-book with a blank papers, which should have been torn-out at some time and used for a message to the "chief" to be written on them??

     

    It is pretty large... 20 x 13 cm (8 x 5 inches).

     

    I am not sure that both emblems and the official name of the BSA should have been used without their permission?

     

    If it has been made by some local organization, I suppose that info will be placed somewhere on the front cover, too.

     

     

    Thank you for the nice words about my English, folks! :)

  4. @ Krampus -  thank you for the tips. I am not sure is it smart to contact an bestselling author (as Mr. Scott is) about this single one, probably unsignificant, paper? I will need to think about it :) But, thank you for the advice!

     

    @ RememberSchiff - thank you for the details which I didn't find out. On the printing is visible publisher: "POWERS ENG CO"... which is also known as "Powers engraving company" from New York. I have tried to Google out "Boy scouts" and "A message to the chief" together... and I didn't find any other sample of this card mentioned anywhere. Also, they way that it is printed (front to back in upside down position) possible suggests that this could be just a trial printing or something... in that position printed as an error? I found interesting how emblems are printed over the photgrapy, and the photography is still visible under the bottom of the right emblem. All looks very crude for the later printings (1920-ies, 1930-ies), especially when it was made by a respectable company which Powers was.

     

    @ Stosh - it looks that a lot of info on this leaflet is not reliable... possibly written and prepared in the very early years when the real numbers and data have not been available. So, possibly was a gossip that already are "over two million boys" in the world are scouts, and, who has prepared this leaflet, didn't have a source to check it. That will also explain other mistakes in spelling (Meyer - Myer, which RememberShiff notice). In the very early days, the reliable sources (as almanacs or so) didn't exists, and that will explain why the numbers are not correct.

     

     

    When we are talking about mistakes errors... please, excuse me for my insufficient English... I am from Central Europe :)

     
  5. Hi! Thank you for the welcome and for the detailed observation.

     

    Yes, I have also noted the high number of the world members ("enrollment over 2 million boys" and "active world membership" are not exactly the same terms)... also, it is refered to the "Boys Scouts of the World" organization (?)... nowhere is mentioned the official name or abb. of the World organization founded in 1922. ... which should be mentioned if the card is printed after that year (especially so late in 1930-ies.

     

    The leaflet (in fact it is a card, about 1mm thick) is printed by "Powers Eng. Co" from New York... it is also pretty large (a 1/4 dollar is on the 2nd scan for compare).

     

    What is also interesting... the back side is printed "upside-down" to the front.. I am not sure is that some kind of error or was a usual practice for that days.

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