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  1. thanks to all of you for all of your feedback on this subject. to clear up a few things, i never said i did not support the SM, i did and i do, i just said i could not believe it was ok for them to do what they did and i will stick by my belief that integrity did not play a big issue in this incident. this is not the first Issue with this same group of parents but i am glad it is the last at least for our troop. as the AC paperpusher parent that i am i do not believe i would be doing my job corretly as teh AC or as a parent if i just turned a blind eye and allowed a scout to receive somethin
  2. Shortidge you are correct i am the Adv Ch and your answer does not offend me but i am far from being a 'paper pusher'. i am part of a team and i take my current job as the Adv Ch seriously. I believe i have a responsibility to each and every scout and parent that walks thru our unit. that responsibility includes helping our troop run a good, fair, honest program with integrity and pride. I don't believe I have ever thought of myself as having power over the scout but i do believe i and every adult in our program should be the guardian of not only advancement standards but of standards in g
  3. @scoutnut no problem here with the no adding or subtracting of the requirements, just more talk on integerity. the no adding or subtracting is actually what might have started this situation. i had to stand firm on MB requirements with the counselor spouse of one of these ASM's when they decided they could not only re-write requirements but requiring scouts to do specific requirements when clearly they had choices to choose from, well this has been an interesting experience and i have most certaintly learned from the experience, i wish them well at their next unit and hope they to have
  4. what i really hate about this whole situation is to me it smacks of common sense. to bring a quality program to the boys integerity has to play a part and i am not seeing it in this situation. did i also mention that this 'family camping event' happened on the same weekend of our annual lock in.
  5. The situation was getting tense so while i did not agree with it i know why we made it. i just kinda feel like we were strong armed. you can bet our policy will be crystal clear from this point forward. this is the first time we have had an issue of this type, i hope it is our last. i just have a hard time believing it is permissible for rank advancement to be signed off on in this manner, to think of all the family non scout events we have attended and all this time i could have had my SPL son signing off on his younger brothers.
  6. i cant say about YPT but i know there were a total of 6 adults at the campout. no they did not fill out paperwork for permit becuase it was not an official scout event. that is the rub, they are saying it does not have to be an official scout event to work on rank advancement, i say it does but cant find anything to back me up. according to one of the dads the district advancement chair agrees with him. i have not heard back from him yet so cant say what his answer is.
  7. we recently had 3 families leave our troop. prior to leaving they brought in their scout books so we could marry up their advancment records. rank for T, 2nd and 1st on two of the boys raised some issues. a few weeks before leaving these three families went on a family camping trip and signed off on several rank advancement requirements for the boys (dads were ASM) i told them these requirements would not be added to their official record because they had not be completed at a scout meeting, event etc. i also reminded them that we had Troop Guides to sign off on these requiements. the sit
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