svendzoid

So Tonight was the annual meeting and elections....... ....And I'm now on the executive board......only kidding As you all could probably tell many many days ago, I didn't make it. While it is upsetting, I will try to follow your advice and work harder to improve my chances for next year. Thanks again for your support, comments, and thoughts! Yours in scouting, Svendzoid

John, I have nothing to hide with my scouting career. If that makes me undesirable with the executive board then that is their loss.

Baden, While I think everyone realizes my chances are slim to getting elected to the executive board....these post really serve as guidance on how to better position myself for trying again in the future. While I never got my fishing merit badge.....I don't think I am baiting anyone....this is after all a forum where ideas and comments are shared between all. I know I keep posting, but I like to reply to all of those who take time to post responses to my original question...or any issue that has morphed from that original question. I'm sorry you think this is a waste of time,

Old evidence left behind after a decision is made reinforces a belief of gadflyism and advocacy. ....old evidence.....since when did scouting become a criminal investigation.....besides my name only appears on the petition, and I know that every exec board member got a copy...no secret Get with the evidence owner and make it go from the current internet. It'll still be on places like the internet wayback machine, but only certifiable geeks like me go there. Again is this an investigation? .....I thought it was scouting As I said before, this thread is about the age limitation for t

....again I am over the sale. Back before the executive board voted to sell the camp, I did post here looking for support and for people to sign a petition. However, I did not create or run the website. I have no authority to remove it from the internet, as I am not the owner or the webmaster. There is no current purpose for the website, but I'm afriad you are asking the impossible from me when you say I should take it down. Again this sale issue was over a year ago, and I have since moved on from the camp sale. This tread was created to answer my origanal question of whether there

What web site are you refering to? I'm not the web master of any scouting related web sites! I'm afraid you have the wrong person! Anyway, I don't see what this has to do with my possible involvement with the executive board......besides there were many exec board members against the sale!

My thoughts exactly Neil. I told him that I would love to help!

"Aside from the issue of you not being 21 yet.." According to the Orientation guide for Council Officers and Executive board Members, there is no age limit, meaning that an 18+ year old can serve. "...do you think that part of the reason that the Exec Board wants nothing to do with you, could be the campaign you have been running for over a year now to get the board to not sell certain Council Camps?" Nope, The camp issue ended a long time ago, back in March of 2007. While I was disappointed with the outcome, I have moved on. In fact I was on a division of the Camping Committee th

Bob, You would plan to disrupt and possibly postpone the election process (a meeting of the council body as a whole that only happens once a year), just to try and get yourself on the executive board? And you think this will endear you to the membership how? No, I would not plan to disrupt or postpone the election process, I would be following the policies and procedures in our by-laws which allow for nominations to be made at the meeting, and to postpone the elections if the nomination committee wished to meet again to discuss the new nomination. Following the council by-laws should not

Bob, Okay Sven, I am gonna presume based on your last post that you did not read the resources you asked for a week ago. There is only 1 way to get on the executive board and that is to be elected by the council body. When I said "Even though the nomination committee isn't going to nominate me, there are other ways to get nominated and voted in." I'm referring to having a chartered rep nominate me at the meeting, which I believe is allowed. The nomination committee might have to re-meet and postpone elections for another time (its all in the bylaws). So simply put, if I can get a majority

Well I met with my scout executive and the nomination committee chairman. It was a 2 hour meeting, in which we talked about everything related to the executive board. Of course, they both made it clear that they had no intentions to elect me to the exec board. There reasons varied from the age requirement, to the fact that I had no money to donate, and then that they thought I would not be able to understand the issues that the board faced. While I disagree with their views on what makes a strong executive board, I was glad to be given the opportunity to meat with them. Our ex

svendzoid, I do not want to offend you in any way or squash your enthusiasm but I suspect that if you did manage to get on the CEB that you would not be "welcomed with open arms" by the current members. Maybe I'm speaking from my own personal experience with my local council's board and the way they operate but they appear to be an "ol boys club". That doesn't bother me, although for an organization that promotes friendly, courteous, kind... it sure is unsettling! The first question I recieved was from one of our board members who asked "what are you doing here?" - This seems to be the

The district calendar gave the time. However the Location changes every few months, so no location was listed. (Calendar copied below.) District Committee Meeting Description: District Committee Meeting Start Date/Time: 6/4/2008 7:00:00 PM End Date/Time:6/4/2008 9:00:00 PM Contact E-mail: *******@bsa***.org I sent an email to the DE, He replied with no location, instead he demanded to know why I wanted to attend, and lectured me about how buisness needed to get done at these meetings. (It's funny because I used to volunteer for membership and attended district

I am trying to get involved on the district level...but it is proving to be harder then I thought! It's hard when your District Executive won't tell you the location of the meeting. But again this thread is really about the executive board issue of allowing an 18-21 to serve on the board.

I am trying to get involved on the district level...but it is proving to be harder then I thought!

Boris...Thanks for your comments. No Offense taken! I realize the uphill....or upcliff battle I'm in. But I think it's worth it. I will of course, report on the outcome!

"Given your age (and perhaps your insistence here), I would suspect that you would not really be very happy if you actually were asked to serve on the board." ...no I think I would be happy..... "Board work is group work; it requires an aptitude for following. . . not so much individual leadership......" I think I can be a team player, each organization in scouting is different, so my council might "fit together" differently than yours....so I don't think prior learing is too important. "You would not really be able to much represent the community." Who knows....I like to think tha

...I did work on staff at a boy scout camp...as a Senior Aquatics Instructor....I'm currently a Program Director at a Ymca Camp. I used the camping aspect as it is really the key place where the council interacts directly with scouts. (meaning that council employees (camp staff) and their policies from the camping committee affect the scouts.) Then, if you also know your numbers (are you a finance major in college?), you have a shot at achieving your goal on ever-broader scales. -Well i'm not a finance major, but I am a math major.....hopefully I know a little about numbers. I will be

Thank you Lisabob. I have tried to do my due diligence on this issue; I have poured over by-laws, looked over training manuals, looked up stuff on the internet, and even called the National Scout Office. It really comes down to the Council. Im sure that if my council wanted me on the Executive board at 20 years of age, they would find a way to get me on. As for the financial aspect, my philosophy is a bit different. I believe that promoting scouting, its camps, program, and opportunities, will increase membership and increase cash flow. At the same time as getting more money from m

John-in-KC - The best place for svendzoid to provide the youth input to his Council's Executive Board is to become Chief of his OA Lodge. Many, not all, many... councils include that young man ex officio. The only problem is that I am a Registered Adult (Assistant Scoutmaster), and I am turning 21 in a few months.......so I think OA Lodge Advisor is out. It's weird because young men in the 18-21 age bracket can both be youth, or adults....it's a grey area.

I'm not saying that the entire board should be made up of young adults. But I see no harm in having a few young adults that are 18-21 serving on the board. If anything they will be better prepared to serve the council in years to come. Does it take 50 people with corporate and business and financial backgrounds to make good financial decisions....not really....maybe 10-15 and thats still a lot. Perhaps if Executive boards spent as much time and energy on reviewing how the program is being delivered at the unit level as they do on finances.....enrollment would increase.....more enrollment equal

...too bad that councils don't. Youth could probably do more for a council then money ever could. Who knows maybe i'll win the lottery...and turn the tables...

....I hope that wasn't directed at me!

Lisa, I want to be elected to the executive board to offer a different and perhaps "new" outlook on different topics. As a younger person, I feel that I am more able to connect with youth in the scouting program, and this might be beneficial. After all it is only a matter of time until my generation is running scouting in my council. I think that for a board to be well rounded it must have representation from all age groups including scouts in the program and young adults from the 18-21 category. I think one of scouting's flaws is that there are no real opportunities for young men who are 18-2

I'm looking for the lower end for age requirments. I'm 20 and want to be nominated to the executive board, however the scout executive is saying that I must be 21. However, I have also heard 18. So I was just wondering what others thought. I have not been able to find any national scouting publishings with age requirments. Any help would be great! Thanks