scoutingtexas

I know the facts-no dark hints-just want to know the best needs of the troop and if there is a way this leader doesn't need the recognition of a great gift like wood badge beads Lisabob.

I believe first reference of "shut up" was from GW

Yes the issues are genuine. Scouts are first.

Not the needs of one leader to take and make lies to fit his or her needs for themselves.

Playing games is not the issue-the faith and beliefs of young men are.

I know a leader who is in woodbadge, about ready to complete his "ticket" items, but his morals around scouts is questionable. Nothing to do with the kids but the fact of his personal questionable "married family life" as been around scouts. Wood Badge should be something people around those in Wood Badge give not a questionable leader gets for completing his "ticket" items that may be done but other factors as the quality of a leader.

"Shut up"

by Gold Winger

Wow so (dip)liomatic

Maybe the needs of 1 (Gold Winger) needs to be contolled to the needs of protecting Scouts.

While I will tell you the fact that if it is me or not me the Scouts will be better off if the current SM is out of his post.

We have made so many suggestions to have our current SM, let the boys lead the troop, here are sugestions to follow, here are quidelines we need to follow, his response, yeah I want to try that. It lasts for a meeting or two and the meetings are run nice and smooth. Then its back to 10 minuntes of meeting and the rest is play time. Then when we need to go somewhere we ask questions and its all hurry up and we don't know and we should have done that.

We paid for sending him to Woodbadge seemed a waste as all his "projects" are almost done, he says, and our troop hasn't seen very much progression.

I did answer this once but it didn't post.

I have been in scouts many years, been to many trainings. I was in this same troop many years ago when the previous SM was asked to leave from poor performance. I still talk to this man today and he said he was tired but didn't know it and glad we helped him out. So sometimes from the outside looking in, I took three years off, you see the light more than when you stand in the light. We have people that are okay with the way things are going and people that have left the troop because they don't like the way things are going. Am I better maybe maybe not. Our troop has not grown but we have added boys and lost boys which will happen in all.

As far as the current SM some like the way things are run some don't, his sons are gone now, did they get Eagle yes, were they involved in the troop to get that Eagle, one some the other no, not only my opinion, but another ASM. So I see where the SM without sons can make better SM's. But when you see the troop slowing down instead of picking up is this what we want for the boys?

So would it be good to talk to the COR and the CC and ask to have my name put in for SM?

Hope so, I know a man that would fail at trustworthy, loyal and reverent. In front of Scouts.

I want to help with Scouts by being ScoutMaster. My son is in Scouts and I want to help him and all the boys advance to the best potential. How do I put my name in to be Scoutmaster?

My daughter stopped going to meetings and has interest in other items. She then got on an explorer group. We asked for her scout account money to be transfered to the explorer group. he leader said we spent all the money and have only about $10 left in the whole account. What if she rejoined the group, we still get paperwork for the GSUSA. Is that money she is owed for selling?? Should I go higher in the GSUSA and find out?

Look at the name callers in Scouts, that might be the scary part.

TRUSTWORTHY

A Scout tells the truth. He keeps his promises. Honesty is part of his code of conduct. People can depend on him.

LOYAL

A Scout is true to his family, Scout leaders, friends, school, and nation.

HELPFUL

A Scout is concerned about other people. He does things willingly for others without pay or reward.

FRIENDLY

A Scout is a friend to all. He is a brother to other Scouts. He seeks to understand others. He respects those with ideas and customs other than his own.

COURTEOUS

A Scout is polite to everyone regardless of age or position. He knows good manners make it easier for people to get along together.

KIND

A Scout understands there is strength in being gentle. He treats others as he wants to be treated. He does not hurt or kill harmless things without reason.

OBEDIENT

A Scout follows the rules of his family, school, and troop. He obeys the laws of his community and country. If he thinks these rules and laws are unfair, he tries to have them changed in an orderly manner rather than disobey them.

CHEERFUL

A Scout looks for the bright side of things. He cheerfully does tasks that come his way. He tries to make others happy.

THRIFTY

A Scout works to pay his way and to help others. He saves for unforeseen needs. He protects and conserves natural resources. He carefully uses time and property.

BRAVE

A Scout can face danger even if he is afraid. He has the courage to stand for what he thinks is right even if others laugh at or threaten him.

CLEAN

A Scout keeps his body and mind fit and clean. He goes around with those who believe in living by these same ideals. He helps keep his home and community clean.

REVERENT

A Scout is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others.

Thanks for all the insights and wisdom. Still don't know what will happen or be done.

Signing off Scoutingtexas!!!

lets just say one is married one not.

Thanks for all the thoughts and wisdom.

Now consider one of the friends is female. Not from our council or district.

I am part of this group, ASSM, parent or member of society, I can, and will do whatever it takes to protect our Scouts. I will add forms or paperwork to protect our Scouts at any cost!

Fire an SM no or yes but he will not expose scouts to immoral values.

I will refuse visitors that do not hold up to Scouting values.

I want to protect my friend but the Scouts are the important ones!!!

I know we have other troubles but just wanted a way to tell an old friend what he did was wrong. The coffee thing didn't work. Am thinking about getting to the SO and tell them top make a review of the people in key situtions. What to do when someone is using Scouts for their own enjoyment.

They used their own tents. They ate with us, we brought food for the meals as did another troop, I know they didn't bring anything. One contributed to the group, but was invited last time we went somewhere and rode with us and never paid any expenses from the last trip. I was stuck with that. I asked the SM if he/he was going to pay this time, he just kind of blew it off and said why, he didn't pay last time. I said nope and nothing was said about it again. The other was just a friend of the SM and didn't do anything except take time and equipment from what the boys were doing. Okay as an ASSM I want to introduce a form for visitors that let us approve or deny these visitors, if they add okay if not they stay away but isnt that best for the boys. Our SM doesn't have boys in the troop anymore, if his boys were in the troop and went one the campout the person that didn't contribute would not have been there. I know when introduce this visitors permission slip the SM will get mad. But This is for the boys and not for the SM to bring his friends to use equipment from the boys.

We are ASSM and the committee. I just want to know if visitors on campouts that really have nothing to do with our group need to be preapproved by the committee or should be just asked to leave. Our SM organized this event so he thought he was in charge and could do what he wants. The only reason one was invited by the SM beacuse of friendship the other was more of an "expert." I think one of our visitors filled out paperwork but don't know to what extent in his/her own council the other I don't know for sure, we didn't know they were going to be on our campout and it was thrown on us.

How much of a scene do we go through at the campout to get these guests gone or not show up and surprise us? Thanks

Does anyone have a visitor form for when someone outside the troop visits on a campout. I am just wanting to prevent visitors invited by our scoutmater who thinks HE owns the troop and we have no say. He has invited people from outside our coucil and one I have known before but don't know if he is registered with Scouts. I will be making sample ones and will post. Thanks for help.

I would like the flags on BSA shirts, that are on the right shoulder to have the blue field forward. Why does BSA go against the "blue field closest to the heart" rule of wearing the flag?" How can we get this passed as a rule to be done?

what about two "friends" come on a campout. Seperate tents. One married one not.

Don't want too many details