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Everything posted by zuzy

  1. When the scout has SMC does the troop do a board of review for the rank BEFORE the actual Eagle board of review. In the scout book, there is a spot that needs to be checked off for SMC and the a board of review below needs to be checked off.
  2. On the eve of St. Nicholas, I am proud to announce that my son was awarded the rank of Eagle Scout. I have never seen him so nervous. Did not help that my hubby told him he would not need his sash and when we got to the community center, saw another Eagle with his sash on and had to race home for the sash before the meeting which would begin in 5 minutes. The committee took me in first anyway, which gave hubby time to go home to retrieve sash. The committee was soooo very nice. Asked me a couple of questions and then it was my sons turn. He went in there and did what he does best. The answers he told my husband and I that he gave were excellent! So much for being nervous. The committee told him that he did a wonderful job on both his project and the write up, one of the gentlemen even went so far as to say it was one of the best he has seen. I am so proud of my son and my husband as well. Thankyou all so much on this forum for all of you words of wisdom and kindness when I needed them to support my son in scouting. My son is now trying to figure out how he can plan all of these camping trips and such around his sports. At least he doesn't have to feel that he is slighting either one any longer, the monkey is off his back. Again thank you so much and happy holidays and Merry Christmas to all.
  3. Hi all, I know I have been absent for awhile and you probably would like to know what is happening with my son. Since my last post, he has joined a new troop, one which meets on Mondays, has like 60 scouts instead of 15, and he fits right in. There are other sports guys in the troop, they have existing Eagles, a couple who are just 13 and 14, so no excuse why he won't be able to get Eagle at 15. New SM asked him if he could get to know him for couple of months and then he would be happy to give SMC and sign his application. The first two meetings while son was interviewing troop, SM elbowed my hubby and said "why is he here?, why did his other troop not support his Eagle?!" "He is already jumping in and instructing my young scouts on what to do!" He fits right in, when is he going to join? LOL. Hubby said it was son's decison to make. So two weeks later, son turned in his application to join and he actually goes to meetings after a full day of school, 3 hours of football practice, whip home for 15 minutes and has a smile on his face going and coming home from the meetings. SM said he will give him a SMC sometime in October before basketball starts up. SM would like to see son in action at a clinic they hold for WeBelos in October. Son did not want to go disputed EBOR route. He wants nothing to do with his old troop and certainly did not want their name on the Eagle certificate. So, he is back in the saddle again and is happy. This troop does a lot of fun things and he wants to go to Boundary waters with them one of these years. He does half 2.5 years left, so he can have lots of fun too. Thanks for all of your support and advice. All is well all is well
  4. Hi all, if you remember, son was almost done with his paperwork for Eagle scout. Had his workbook done, only needs to do letter of ambition. Well, last nite, after he emailed his SM to ask if they can meet to have the workbook signed, he and I talked. The email was not very complete, did not have good details as to what he needs from SM and I scolded him and asked "what"? He told me he doesn't want to do this anymore, he is done.....tooo much paperwork, he wants to stop. He said that he does not like this troop, his second because of needing Sundays. He said that they do not accept him, he does not feel welcome. They have not had a meeting for 7 weeks now. He asked the SM in mid May to please sign his LIVIT for NYLT to get his beads before he turns in his eagle book. There was a campout that weekend and son thought there would be a meeting that Sunday, SM expected him to come out to the campout (had to miss because of basketball tourney during the day on Sunday) 50 minutes away. Son was also told there was no meeting that night. Also troop cancelled last meeting because it was the Sunday of Memorial Day. Now, son is so discouraged, that he does not want to even "look" at his Eagle book any more, and it look beautiful by the way, in a binder all in sleeves and colored pics and all. I am very sad, very disheartened, very disappointed in scouting. Yes, this is an adult run troop. Son was trying to change it by being SPL, but when hubby, the Unit Commissioner stepped away from the committee meetings and all, they went back to their evil ways. Now, they cancel on a whim and tell the boys where and when they are going, which is not much. I just "want" my son to get the signatures that he needs and walk away, head up. Now i am not so sure he can even do that without a fuss with SM
  5. Big, huge question. Is the troop boy led or adult led. Take a look at WHO is telling whom to do what at the meetings. If there are a lot of adults telling the boyscout what to do at the meetings, RUN! Do not look back. Trust me you do not want adult led unless you want a glorified cub scout troop in boyscouts.
  6. Hi all, we'll SM told son last week he will not sign his application or give him a SMC on the grounds that son did not act appropriately at summer camp and he did not show correct leadership while SPL from Jan till last week.son already has POR signed off in book as,PLC for liferank. My question to y'all is this. Should he just have his new troop SM sign it, or should he go the disputed route. He wanted to leave this troop after how he has been treated the past couple of months. SM and ASM claim that they were constantly trying to work with him, but no results. Rather hard to have results when there are no PLC meetings for 3 months and then cutting meetings short if not cancelling altogether.son is meeting with two troops this and last week to see how they are. I am just mom, don't know what's really going on, just what I hear. And I haven't really seen too many good things from this troop. Can you please give me your take. He does not mind "putting in dues" with new troop to have paper signed. But would you go the disputed route, or new troop? Advantages, disadvantages to both?
  7. No, he has not talked to SM of receiving troop yet. He met with one troop last week to work on an eagle project, but I don't think he mention the app to the SM. He has a meeting with another troop tonight. I will remind him to ask.
  8. Well, not really cancelled I guess because on the calendar it says "no meeting". When that was put up I am not sure. But I am sure son is making first call to a troop SM tonight. No sense waiting and prolonging the agony.
  9. David CO you are way off base. SPL JUST made the decision to leave this week. SM does not have "wind" Of anything. This guy had been pegged correctly by most of these posters, he is not a good SM and has never even read a scout masters book, doesn't even have one.
  10. The drama continues. Son Still does not have SMC or board of review for Eagle. SM is nitpicking at meeting plans son sent to him. Have not had PLC in three months. Called one this week. Told son to have meeting plan written up and email to SM the next night. Meeting is the 24th, next Sunday. Son could not put the details in plan because the scout he was supposed to get first class requirements needed from will not get back to son (SPL). Son sent what info he had and SM sent back email stating he wanted the details for scout needing first class requirements on sheet, why weren't they on? Son emailed back with the fact that scout never got back to him and he needs to talk to ASM for homework details yet to put those in. Son also said that he is looking forward to SMC and board of review at same meeting because he has been trying to get this since before summer camp in late June. SM sent last email telling son he will have someone else take care of the meeting plans!! WTH??? Just because son said he needs to get the info from the other peopke yet. Son also told SM in email prior that because they have not had a PLC in three months, that the scribe has no details for him. SM requested info from scribe. SM also belittled son because he was not paying attention to ASM talking about what hexis,working on for Eagle badges in meetings and homework needed for scouts. Son said wrong thing to SM. Sorry, I wasnt paying attention, I already have that badge. SM told son he still needs to teach, he's not done yet. So son explained that he didn't hear what was being said about homework and that he took offense to SM saying he is not teaching the scouts because he is, So now I am thinking SM is not going to give SMC or board,of review. If son goes to another troop, would they be able to give SMC and board of review? Will he have to be there for awhile before they would do this? The hate this troop. Last thing son said last night before going to bed was. "The only thing I have learned while being a LIFE scout, is to take care of myself, look out for self. As soon as I get my EAGLE, I am out of here!"and goodbye to scouting forever." My heart aches for him and for scouting. I did not want him to ever think that way let alone about scouting. He l9ved it at his last troop. This troop has sacked the scout blood out of him.
  11. Oh Beavah, you funny. Thanks for the chuckle
  12. Son has a few troops in mind. Hubby already knows three troops that wanted son after he Eagles, maybe they can be bumped up a bit.
  13. Eagle based on dispute. Can son then have his Eagle COH with his new troop? How long would dispute take and would it involve son having to testify?
  14. COR wants NOTHING to do with this troop. The feeder pack will not get close with a ten foot pole. UC has tried to get COR invomved, they want nothing to do with this troop. Have not had any cross overs now for three years. They do not even try to get new scouts. Had a mad exodus of 8 families lije 4 years ago. Gee, I wonder why. Son joined this troop two years ago in fall when he needed a troop that met on Sundays, and they do.
  15. Council wanted the advancements taken away from SM, he loses all blue cards and does not "seem" to submit them to council. Sits on everything and when he is asked for the blue cards, amazingly "loses" them. He is also MBC for "all" merit badges. Most of the signatures on the scouts in this troop are SM's or ASM's. I could go on for about an hour about what is not right about this troop. What is right, is that they have about 9-10 boys that would like to be scouts and enjoy the scouting program, if only they did not have a ASM that is constantly telling them what and how to do it.
  16. These are monies that have been transferred over from the old troop. Sons have not really done any canvassing since they joined this troop and husband pays for campouts and summer camp cash usually.
  17. Council is rather upset right now and wants answers from the troop for questions. Even they told hubby to encourage son to find a new troop or just have another SM sign off. Sad sad sad.
  18. Questionable that this SM has OAK leaf. Highly dysfunctional troop. Husband and son did not find this out until in it for a bit. Then stuck it out because hubby was appointed UNIT Commissioner for this troop to straighten them out. That's when it started hitting the fan for my son. Best thing to do for this troop is to disband or major reorganize. I don't want my son sticking around for reorganization. Too many other troops out there. Oh, another thing. Second son, scout in troop as well did not go to summer camp, but funds $300 were taken out of his and brothers account. They put the two together when they transferred over. Now, they won't refund the $300. Say they need to look into it. Also will not reimburse me for a campout that son purchase all of food $125. Hubby thinks they have no money. Ughhhhhh. As Unit Commissioner, he is trying to get the troop turned around. He got advancements away from SM, and got them to wear class As for meetings. Also might have gotten them to have a formal COH, still no date. Otherwise the boys waited until January for any awards, which were few any way.
  19. I think council was more concerned that this tropp had NO COHS and not so much elections. I have since found out that SMS son needs two ranks in the next year, so I think SM is preparing the way for his son to get two sets of leadership. SM son is,already 17. They have NEVER had a proper COH. They have been calling their electronic weekend in January their COH and even then, no family present and no class "A"s.
  20. Truth is that he has has such a crummy experience with this troop. He was just going to hang it up after his COH. But, if he can find a fun troop he originally wanted to stay in and earn palms, until he wad 17 as long g as he could do his sports.
  21. Set meeting for the following Sunday, August 7th, which falls out of line with every other eeek
  22. Thanks Guys.....yes, son will be moving on. And yes all troops have their own cultures, this one rather blindsided son. Can't really tell much about a troop in just a couple of visits before joining. But this time, hubby has already been able to meet other troops through his UC position and kind of knows that SMs already. Stosh and Tampa Turtle, you hit the nail on the head, both counts. SM needs to be seriously worked with and reminded of the scout oath and law.
  23. There is no good times to be had in this troop. ASM does all the talking at the meetings and does not let the boys have fun on outings. Everything has to be done Perfectly, they cannot have a learning curve. His own son, he took away fire building from him at summer camp becauseche,was not doing it right. SPL had A SPL go over and calm the ASM son down and get ASM away. Heck, the boys aren't even allowed to eat snacks when they want to on camp outs because it costs money. ASM runs the troop not SM Again NO FUN allowed, this is serious learning here at this troop. That is why one scout has been a tender foot for three years now and SPL got him to second class. SM is not pleased SPL cannot get said scout to first class's. Said scout won't even give SPL respect by returning phone calls or emails. SM holds on to all blue cards until the scout eagle's and THEN, if he can find them gives them to the scout. Because my son had most of his merit badges done before this troop, SM only lost 3 eagle blue cards and two others on him. Instead of waiting, son went back to MBC to get another blue card signed. This troop is high maintenance to say the least. Ughhhhhh.