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Thanks to all for your insights!

Found this in Aids to Scoutmastership, B.P, didn't "Care a fig". Could explain why the "Corporation" doesn't require.

Dust off your "Saucy cock"'s

Thanks again!!

THE SCOUT UNIFORM

I have often said, "I don't care a fig whether a Scout wears a uniform or not so long as his heart is in his work and he carries out the Scout Law." But the fact is that there is hardly a Scout who does not wear uniform if he can afford to buy it.

The spirit prompts him to it.

The same rule applies naturally to those who carry on the Scout Movement-the Scoutmasters and Commissioners; there is no obligation -on them to wear uniform if they don't like it. At the same time, they have in their positions to think of others rather than of themselves.

Personally, I put on uniform, even if I have only a Patrol to inspect, because I am certain that it raises the moral tone of the boys. It heightens their estimation of their uniform when they see it is not beneath a grown man to wear it; it heightens their estimation of themselves when they find themselves taken seriously by men who also count it of importance to be in the same brotherhood with them.

Smartness in uniform and correctness in detail may seem a small matter, but has, its value in the development of self-respect, and means an immense deal to the reputation of the Movement among outsiders who judge by what they see.

It is largely a matter of example. Show me a slackly-dressed Troop and I can "Sherlock" a slackly-dressed Scoutmaster. Think of it, when you are fitting on your uniform or putting that final saucy cock to your hat.

You are the model to your boys and your smartness will reflect itself in them.

Done some poking around the interweb, can't find an answer to this one, I'm sure it has been here before.

Does BSA require a uniform to be worn at any time or occasion?

I haven't found anything that says so.

Thanks

Scoutfish had it right, it is a helmet, however I don't believe the BSA would endorse the nazi variety, although this may have slipped through their QA/QC process. The "Fish Helemt" is also a safety item covered in the GSS.

A not very Scoutlike prank gone bad.

Happy April one

Last Summer at camp they did the lost and found at lunch, a room full of 600 hungry souls. All Scouts who had items on the L&F table had to come up then all sang "Reunited". Cleared this with the MC of the show first, then went to town and purchaced an oversized pair of pink panties, while in uniform of course, took them back to camp, had my 11 y.o.'s write our SPL's name on them and filled the the guys in on the plan. Dropped unmentionables of at the table in a bag and let the MC know. He was great, prefect timing, Needless to say you had 600 Scouts who had a BIG laugh. On the walk to the chow hall before lunch, I told our SPL that a Scout was many things, but mostly he was a "Good sport!" That was a prank, In my book.

Maybe the OA should do something like that, maybe use a bra, high heels, maybe a nice little sun dress, you know, mix it up a bit, keep it interesting.

Sorry, just try'in to light'in the mood.

Thanks again!!!

I really want to thank all of you for your input. As a new ASM (1 yr.) this is still a learning process for me, your options and solutions have been insightful.

Here's my two cents worth based comments here. I don't not consider this hazing and based on the Scout not taking a drink, do not believe expulsion would be the way to go. However, if the Scout had taken a drink I may be in favor of it then, I know, doesn't make any sense. Maybe it's because of potential legal issues involved, if the Scout had taken a drink, I believe the parents could have pressed some type of charge against the juveniles i.e. child endangerment/abuse.

I consider it fortunate it wasnt ninety five degrees and the victim thirsty. We would have had a whole new ball game, a truly egregious one.

Open communication is a key here, but how much? The entire Troop? Yes. Every parent? No. All involved should have some type of consequence. Community service? No, youd have to restrict it from any requirements!!! Yeah..I gave that boy a bottle of pee, but I got my community service hours It is funny, but not really. Troop chores might be the way to go, doing dishes for all Patrols for a set number of campouts might work. They would never forget it, and all Scouts would be reminded of what went on and the consequence. Suspension from a set number of activities? Maybe.

More importantly SMC with all Boy Leadership/Perp. Parents present? Yes. Boys individually before the Board, YES. If the Scout did not carry out any of these Cheerfully he probably is not needed in the Troop. I want to stress, if the Scout had taken a drink, whole new ball game in my opinion. Bear in mind, my opinion doesnt account for much, just ask my ex-wife, insert happy smiley face here.

SMT224 hit the nail on the head

We do the best we can to run our Troop within the Scout Law. The prank described was far outside of the Scout Law, and must be dealt with swiftly and accordingly. Scouting should be a safe place, and no Scout should ever be subject to such a humiliating and disgusting "prank".

Artjrk sentiment on a boy led Troop

The older scouts should also be held to the same degree of reprimand, possibly more.

Perdidochas sentiment on a boy led Troop

However, I think the two older boys should be punished much more harshly than that.

John-in-KC How True Merit Badge Awarded

The SM and the CC need to have each others' back on this. The consequences should be pretty well settled on before the BOR begins.

I believe that we all would agree on a swift, cant stress that enough, and a coordinated result to this conflict, or any other which may occur on an outing. I have observed that Things can happen often on trips. If consequence is delved as often, this would serve to lessen its overall affect on a Troop. If it is not, you have a runaway train in the making.

The thin line is The last cookie in the jar. Herein lies one of the Grey areas in Scouting. Of which I was once told there were none! What do we police? We dont need to answer this here, but it all comes back to the ol Oath and Law.

Many thanks to all.

It was actually urine.

I tasted it myself just to be sure.

Ahh..jus kiddin'

On a recent outing, Senior Scouts (14 y.o.) gave a bottle of urine to a younger Scout (11 y.o.) and the younger Scout was told to get someone to drink it. The younger Scout knew what was in the bottle. The chosen victim did not drink the contents and came to me to report. I found that there were three Scouts involved and brought them to the SM. The younger Scout stepped up and said it was his fault, although it was a conspiracy. He was admonished by the SM and told his BOR would be delayed because of his actions. The older Scouts to my knowlege, suffered no consequence, because the younger Scout was the "Trigger man" and could have prevented the whole affair. I disagree, would appreciate any comment.

Also, if the victim did drink, could parents have the other Scouts involved arrested?