Jon M

Thanks, ScoutNut, for the reply and the clarification regarding advancement, den structure, etc. Regarding den#'s: Just figured since the uniform inspection sheet in the DL Handbook showed a position for den numerals they might be more than just a suggestion(http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34282.pdf). Withdrew my application from that pack anyway and have been in contact with a few others in the area. Will be visiting a few in the weeks to come. Had a very nice conversation with a CM from another pack and will be visiting there next week. I understand that some might be

To EJCrimmins: Hello and thanks for the comments. I am not fixating on Den Numbers or anything but was just a bit concerned when the DL had no idea what it was since one had apparently been assigned. Although to be honest I actually do see merit in using an actual den number since a den might have new cubs without rank, bobcats, and wolves. Is this a wolf den? I find that it might be easier to just say this is Den 123. It lends fully inclusive cohesion to the group reminding them that although in one regard they are at different levels in another they are all still members of the sam

Thanks, shortridge, for the advice. I will locate conact info for the DC. The problems with this particular pack transcend not knowing den numbers, not wearing uniforms, and running amock in the gymnasium. These are merely signs or indicators that serve to suggest the existence of larger problems. CM and DL's not being in uniform, for example, is something that I am not accustomed to but could get past if the clothing they wore instead was neat and tidy. At last week's pack meeting the DL had on a rather well worn sweatshirt and faded blue-jeans with holes in both knees. If one

Thanks to all who replied! First I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't coming in to this whole thing with inflated and unrealistic expectations. My sense now is that I most certainly wasn't. To Jet526: I mispoke. It is not a combined Wolf/Bear Den - just a Wolf Den. So I guess they at least have that part right. At the beginning of next month I am attending a day-long "The Next Step" training session hosted by the local council and intend to spend some time getting to know other pack leaders from the area in an effort to perhaps identify an alternative to the chaos we have exper

Hello! I am new to the forum and new to Scouting (as a parent, anyway). My son recently joined the Wolf/Bear Den within the local pack and was initially very excited to do so. As a youth I spent many years in scouting and have nothing but grand memories and oftentimes hilarious stories to tell when asked about my experiences as a scout (1980's). Naturally my son expected something at least remotely similar to what I had experienced and consequently had described to him. Unfortunately the first Den meeting was an eye-opener for both me and my son. The Den Leader did not have any com